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Title: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: JaJitsu on March 21, 2010, 08:36:57 AM
While babysitting my brother we had this show on called "The Suite Life On Deck"

the episode had this virtual life thing. and in the background had all these arcade machines.
tell me this doesnt look like cave story.



(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n141/JaJitsu/Screenshot2010-03-21at93048AM.png)
(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n141/JaJitsu/Screenshot2010-03-21at93054AM.png)


If you want to see it in action i went ahead and found the video too.
http://www.megavideo.com/?d=5SY9UP7L
It starts at 0:15:00


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: MaloEspada on March 21, 2010, 08:40:39 AM
Post of the fuckin' year. Nice find Ja.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on March 21, 2010, 09:03:37 AM
Goddammit that's some bad CGI. I was hoping for a video of Miley Cyrus playing  :cavestory: Soulja Boy style.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 21, 2010, 09:09:38 AM
Umm... are they allowed to do that?


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Laremere on March 21, 2010, 09:19:47 AM
Reminds me of when I noticed an Aquaria image using in an Onion video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyVh1_vWYQ&NR=1 @ 1:43


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Falmil on March 21, 2010, 09:26:42 AM
Considering its in the background of some virtual space on the show, I would think it would fall under fair use.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Melly on March 21, 2010, 09:32:14 AM
Well, I certainly don't advocate being anal about your trademarks, but if Cave Story was owned by someone big, there could be a few sparks flying.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 21, 2010, 09:58:41 AM
Goddammit that's some bad CGI. I was hoping for a video of Miley Cyrus playing  :cavestory: Soulja Boy style.

It makes me a little sad. Miley Cyrus wouldn't be better. Cave Story deserves to appear in a good show, not these Disney cheap unfunny shows.

... I used to love Disney. Now I can barely watch anything from them. It's not because I grew up, it's because they don't seem to care about quality anymore.

Reminds me of when I noticed an Aquaria image using in an Onion video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AyVh1_vWYQ&NR=1 @ 1:43

This is good comedy. Sadly, most people wouldn't even know that image comes from a game.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: LazyWaffle on March 21, 2010, 10:10:25 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/330e7hj.png)

That's definitely Cave Story.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: JaJitsu on March 21, 2010, 10:26:13 AM
I wonder why they took out the save and health?


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 21, 2010, 10:44:00 AM
I wonder why they took out the save and health?
Maybe they edited thinking nobody would be able to recognize anymore.

Their evil plan was foiled.  :lol:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Inanimate on March 21, 2010, 10:45:32 AM
It's surprising how recognizable that first part is!


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 21, 2010, 10:48:47 AM
It's surprising how recognizable that first part is!
On a second thought, maybe they did it on purpose. Maybe it was a Cave Story fan who did it.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Caio on March 21, 2010, 10:58:26 AM
Yeah - looks more like a homage than just a lazy ripoff to me.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: mark on March 21, 2010, 12:23:38 PM
I wonder why they took out the save and health?

Not needed for a 2..3...4 player game?


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: The-Imp on March 21, 2010, 01:03:55 PM
Who thought of that?  I want to punch them.  I really, really, really want to punch them.  Also, Cave Story is played on a motorbike?


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: rob on March 21, 2010, 01:24:01 PM
Well how the hell do you play it?


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Melly on March 21, 2010, 01:46:32 PM
On a skateboard.

Duh.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Bood_War on March 21, 2010, 03:22:19 PM
My eyes... Can't take the terrible CGI...  :facepalm:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Gimym JIMBERT on March 21, 2010, 03:50:02 PM
It has to look cgi, just like game have to have chip sound, or gamer uselessly moving their gamepad in non sense, or ordi that talks, or people that chat without ever ever using the spacebar or the enter keys.... You know!


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: michael on March 21, 2010, 06:17:23 PM
ya, guys, all this means is that someone in disney is fucking awesome. some indie like ourselves, trapped in the belly of the man.
 :gentleman:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: JaJitsu on March 21, 2010, 06:38:32 PM
haha, that is true. I wonder who was the one to put it in...


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: alspal on March 21, 2010, 06:57:07 PM
I heard it was JaJitsu.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Derek on March 21, 2010, 07:00:41 PM
I'm with michael, that's awesome. :handthumbsupL:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Rob Lach on March 21, 2010, 07:03:47 PM
I'm with michael, that's awesome. :handthumbsupL:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Enshoku on March 21, 2010, 07:52:09 PM
Obviously not cave story, I mean, the backgrounds aren't even the same color.

Now if only cave story were to show up in something relevant...


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: BlueSweatshirt on March 21, 2010, 08:07:09 PM
That's a joke, yes?  :laughter:
I'm no Photoshop veteran, but I'm pretty sure it'd take no more than 10 left mouse clicks and a shade of green to change the color of those tiles.

I'm with Michael and Derek; it's cool to see indie outside indie, if you know what I mean.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Enshoku on March 21, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
That's a joke, yes?  :laughter:
I'm no Photoshop veteran, but I'm pretty sure it'd take no more than 10 left mouse clicks and a shade of green to change the color of those tiles.

I'm with Michael and Derek; it's cool to see indie outside indie, if you know what I mean.
Photoshopping betwixt poorly rendered 3d characters...sounds impossible.

Other than that, though, I dunno how cool I'd consider it. The disney crowd and cave story playing crowd arent exactly co-alligned, and a quarter of disney's audience is probably younger than cave story, so I doubt many people will get what it is. I suppose its better than nothing though.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Radnom on March 21, 2010, 11:09:15 PM
Also, Cave Story is played on a motorbike?
:lol:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 22, 2010, 06:06:07 AM
Photoshopping betwixt poorly rendered 3d characters...sounds impossible.

Other than that, though, I dunno how cool I'd consider it. The disney crowd and cave story playing crowd arent exactly co-alligned, and a quarter of disney's audience is probably younger than cave story, so I doubt many people will get what it is. I suppose its better than nothing though.
Why so? In the comparison the room seemed to have the exact same shape. It is surely Cave Story

You may argue it might have been photoshopped after the fact, but it is not too difficult for a Cave Story fan to slip the image in if all they need is a generic pixeled game image. Disney shows are for kids, but not made by kids.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Enshoku on March 22, 2010, 11:21:29 AM

Why so? In the comparison the room seemed to have the exact same shape. It is surely Cave Story

You may argue it might have been photoshopped after the fact, but it is not too difficult for a Cave Story fan to slip the image in if all they need is a generic pixeled game image. Disney shows are for kids, but not made by kids.
I was just kidding, my point was that it was obviously cave story, beyond the point of disambiguation.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 22, 2010, 11:35:58 AM
I was just kidding, my point was that it was obviously cave story, beyond the point of disambiguation.
Ugh. What an awful comprehension failure.

Anyway, even if few people get it, the ones who do will be really happy. It's very rare to find references of indie games in mainstream media, as far as I know.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TheDustin on March 22, 2010, 12:26:18 PM
I played the hell out of Heroscape with my little brother and friends a couple years back; my brother's spotted the game's tiles and characters in a couple shows and movies. It's cool to have those hidden, nerdy easter eggs laying around.

To be on topic: this is pretty cool. 


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: SirNiko on March 22, 2010, 01:37:15 PM
Cave Story is on Nintendo now. Is it really still Indie?

Speaking of which, maybe I should pick that up. I finished Megaman 10, and really I want to encourage more people to make quality platformers on the Wii...

-SirNiko


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Laremere on March 22, 2010, 01:41:54 PM
Platform doesn't determine if it is indie or not....


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Enshoku on March 22, 2010, 01:44:44 PM
Cave Story is on Nintendo now. Is it really still Indie?

Speaking of which, maybe I should pick that up. I finished Megaman 10, and really I want to encourage more people to make quality platformers on the Wii...

-SirNiko
Also: every iphone app, XBLA game and wiiware game ever... I always knew Xgen was evil somehow..


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 22, 2010, 02:18:10 PM
Cave Story is on Nintendo now. Is it really still Indie?
No, it is not.
Now that it will defy its own origin, reality will collapse around it to a point Cave Story will never have existed. We will be lucky if the backlash doesn't make Pixel disappear too. :crazy:

Seriously, now. Cave Story will be published on a Nintendo plataform, but it isn't the same as being dependent of a big publisher. It would be rougly the same to say the "indie-ness" of a game published on Steam is questionable. As far as I know, Nintendo is very strict(this is an understatement), but being on the Wiiware doesn't make any game less indie.

Sometimes I question the indie-ness of some games(well, at least one), but I don't see anything wrong with Wiiware Cave Story.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: SirNiko on March 22, 2010, 02:26:37 PM
Ha, I wasn't really being totally serious, guys. To me you're Indie until you start saying "It should star a robot because statistics show those are popular in the 12-24 bracket" instead of "Hey, robots are cool. Let's make a game about one.".

-SirNiko


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on March 22, 2010, 03:32:10 PM
I for one am happy to see more inherently console-style indie games on, y'know, consoles.

Playing platformers on PC always seemed wrong to me anyway, in the same way that playing FPSs and strategy games on console seems wrong. Not that that's stopping me from doing these things, but I still see the PC as more of a temporary "exile" for 2D platformers until they return to consoles full force.  ;)


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Melly on March 22, 2010, 10:35:50 PM
Until somebody invents a way for people to freely distribute their games on consoles for anyone to play like in computers, I don't think that's fully happening.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on March 23, 2010, 12:08:57 AM
Until somebody invents a way for people to freely distribute their games on consoles for anyone to play like in computers, I don't think that's fully happening.
Well one can hope, right?

Also, it's already starting to happen (the return of platformers I mean) with the various console download services and big devs like Nintendo and Capcom revisting the genre.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Enshoku on March 23, 2010, 12:12:36 AM
I for one am happy to see more inherently console-style indie games on, y'know, consoles.

Playing platformers on PC always seemed wrong to me anyway, in the same way that playing FPSs and strategy games on console seems wrong. Not that that's stopping me from doing these things, but I still see the PC as more of a temporary "exile" for 2D platformers until they return to consoles full force.  ;)
Platformers never felt out of place for me, but the devil may cry and resident evil games felt cheapened, because both were designed at the core with a controller in mind, and the keyboard doesnt quite feel right.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on March 23, 2010, 12:32:12 AM
It's not really about the controls, you can use a controller with a PC too, it's just that platformers are a "traditional" console genre and I'd rather see them where they belong (in my opinion), it's all personal preference.  ;)


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Melly on March 23, 2010, 10:19:55 AM
Sinclair, lets make an indie game console.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: team_q on March 23, 2010, 10:31:19 AM
Until somebody invents a way for people to freely distribute their games on consoles for anyone to play like in computers, I don't think that's fully happening.

There was a way, it was called XNA, but in market testing before it came out, they found out that game makers had no interest in paying a bit of money to distribute games for free. Microsoft flipped their game plan right around, now it is moderately successful.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Melly on March 23, 2010, 10:38:40 AM
Well, I did say freely distribute, that means not having to pay money to show off your freeware game you'd get no profit on, which is perfectly possible in the internet, but obviously something console manufacturers wouldn't be interested in.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Dacke on March 23, 2010, 10:40:41 AM
I have never gotten what consoles are all about. How about using real computers, but adding functionality to them instead?

For example: connect your computer to your TV. Use wireless hand-controls. Run games that support the functionality needed. The game should be able to be played without mouse/keyboard. You have to suppress sounds/warnings from the OS (or use an OS that isn't all up in your face, like Ubuntu).

Or possibly create a special console-OS that is made for playing console-style games. That way, everyone could get access to the needed hardware for cheap and the system would never have to become outdated.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Melly on March 23, 2010, 10:42:44 AM
I think it's been mentioned by someone here a project to create an ultra-cheap, lo-fi, open indie console anyone could make games to. I don't think it caught on.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: John Nesky on March 23, 2010, 10:51:11 AM
The thing that is amazing about consoles is standarization. If I made a console game, I could rely on it working on all consoles. Everybody would have the same experience, nobody would have to troubleshoot it, and the "installation" is as easy as it can possibly be.  It makes life easier for players, and it also makes life easier for developers, which means they have more time to focus on making the game good.

Standardization requires authority, which is something that an indie console would have trouble achieving.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Dacke on March 23, 2010, 11:06:01 AM
I think it's been mentioned by someone here a project to create an ultra-cheap, lo-fi, open indie console anyone could make games to. I don't think it caught on.

I think the way to go would be to stay as hardware-agnostic as possible. Not making your own hardware.

There is a special linux-distribution that basically is a web-browser. The browser covers the screen and you can't close it. It works out-of-the-box on any old computer.

I think it would be fairly easy to create something similar for games. Instead of creating new special console hardware you could use old computers. Any old computer that can be connected to controls and a TV (or big screen) would work. Old computers are pretty much free today and are readily available almost everywhere.

If you built the OS on top of debian/ubuntu/something you would get hardware support for pretty much everything, too. The OS would work out-of-the-box on any crap you managed to put together, and games would automatically work as long as the computer met the minimum-requirements for each specific game.

Additionally, you would be able to program for it in C++, Java, Python, whatever.

Edit: Also, the built-in "Software Centre" in Ubuntu if mind-blowingly amazing. It automatically connects to software-servers and gives you a list of programs you can install. You can search, read descriptions, rate them (eventually) and one-click-install programs.

So you could easily get the same functionality on a console-OS as you get on online-marketplaces on regular consoles.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Laremere on March 23, 2010, 11:22:38 AM
I don't see why you'd have to limit yourself to old computers.  Many console controllers can easily connect to computers (such as Wii, or Xbox controllers), so I don't see why there would be any problem with controllers.  With a computer to tv connection, you basically have a working console.  The only thing really not standing in the way is that people don't do it...


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Dacke on March 23, 2010, 11:28:48 AM
I don't see why you'd have to limit yourself to old computers.  Many console controllers can easily connect to computers (such as Wii, or Xbox controllers), so I don't see why there would be any problem with controllers.  With a computer to tv connection, you basically have a working console.  The only thing really not standing in the way is that people don't do it...

Well, there are two different things:
1) Use computers as consoles.
2) Create a standardized, affordable console that people can develop for. A system where you just pop in and play a game.

Depending on what we are discussing, I would give you the answer:
1) I completely agree with you. And this is what I'm most interested in, personally.
2) I'm saying that it would be easier to go the used-computer route instead of making your own hardware. It would even be doable.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: mjau on March 23, 2010, 11:38:21 AM
There's also this (http://www.open-pandora.org/) .. unlikely to become wildly popular of course, but it's there :)


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 23, 2010, 11:40:52 AM
There's also this (http://www.open-pandora.org/) .. unlikely to become wildly popular of course, but it's there :)

It seemed great some time ago. Now it's getting outdated and it's still not released yet.
It may push Linux games a little though.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Mar on March 24, 2010, 07:30:15 PM
There's also this (http://www.open-pandora.org/) .. unlikely to become wildly popular of course, but it's there :)

It seemed great some time ago. Now it's getting outdated and it's still not released yet.
It may push Linux games a little though.

want. i may not know ANYTHING about it, but a peguin is it's spokesperson


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on March 25, 2010, 01:41:43 AM
Why I prefer consoles:

  • Ease of use. No screwing around with hardware and settings, every game works.
  • I'm a bit of an ADD person. When play on PC I often Alt-Tab out of the game I'm playing to check my email and stuff like that. Consoles help me concentrate on what I'm really trying to do.
  • I grew up with almost exclusively console gaming, so I have more of a personal attachment to it.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: mjau on March 25, 2010, 09:08:12 AM
It seemed great some time ago. Now it's getting outdated and it's still not released yet.

They entered mass production a few weeks ago.  Also, it may not be state of the art anymore, but i think it's still pretty cool.

It may push Linux games a little though.

For the desktop, you mean?  I doubt it..  ARM is a completely different architecture than x86, so it's not like you can just copy stuff over and it'll work.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Gimym JIMBERT on March 25, 2010, 09:35:11 AM
Indie console?

Plug and play
put the game and play

no fucking channel/interface, splash screen, you name it!

AND SUPPORT 12 LOCAL PLAYERS  :durr:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: moi on March 25, 2010, 11:04:07 AM
An indie console would end up with just dozens of physics based games and shoot the monkey games, and we all know it.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Gimym JIMBERT on March 25, 2010, 11:27:03 AM
ecept for the occasional gem that woul blew you mind off, especially with 12 player in the same room (wireless of course)


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on March 25, 2010, 12:08:58 PM
An indie console would end up with just dozens of physics based games and shoot the monkey games, and we all know it.
This.

Also, seeing as no one outside of the indie scene would buy this console, things would become even more incestous than they already are.

Say no to inbred games!  :durr:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Bood_War on March 25, 2010, 12:50:25 PM
There is the XGamestation or whatever DIY console. Available from MAKE.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 26, 2010, 08:17:39 AM
hello all....................

how are you.........

i wont say anything because i have nothing to say.......... :mockangry: :mockangry: :mockangry:

Hi. Did you introduce yourself already (http://forums.tigsource.com/index.php?topic=45.0)?

There is the XGamestation or whatever DIY console. Available from MAKE.

Wow, that's very indie. ;D


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Melly on March 26, 2010, 09:30:30 AM
That's spam Vulpine.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on March 26, 2010, 09:43:17 AM
That's spam Vulpine.

Oh... sorry.  :(
I thought it was just a clueless guy, but I didn't want to be harsh.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: JackieJay on March 28, 2010, 06:43:11 AM
holy SHIT


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: Supermini_man on March 28, 2010, 06:48:11 AM
Whoa, nice discovery there, I wouldn't have notice without any tip. Although I can blame the CGI for that.  :epileptic:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: heretic on March 28, 2010, 05:51:02 PM
woah... nice find, man.

that show, being however lame it is, having cave story on it makes it that much cooler.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: moi on March 28, 2010, 07:01:08 PM
Ok so when does the Nicalis Vs Disney channel lawsuit begin?


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: JackieJay on March 28, 2010, 07:21:02 PM
Ok so when does the Nicalis Vs Disney channel lawsuit begin?

Then langdell steps in and sues disney for having mickey say edge in Fantasia and we'll have all the indie kingdom united against Disney. That would be just awesome.  :gentleman:


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: gunswordfist on April 08, 2010, 10:13:07 AM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/330e7hj.png)

That's definitely Cave Story.
HOLY SHIT!!!


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: TwilightVulpine on April 11, 2010, 09:09:02 AM
Is there Disney-style Cave Story art?

It would be very appropriate to this topic.


Title: Re: Cave Story on the Disney channel???
Post by: SunnyKatt on April 12, 2010, 06:17:28 PM
I'm sure you feel petty yet awesome for finding and pointing that out. Nice find. :o