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Title: TV Tropes
Post by: tesselode on August 21, 2010, 06:16:22 PM
Just want to see how many people have been trapped on TV Tropes before.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Ashkin on August 21, 2010, 06:50:02 PM
The horror... THE HORROR! :epileptic:


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: moi on August 21, 2010, 06:58:47 PM
It lacks the option "I don't waste time on this website because my neurons aren't one-way only".


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Okenido on August 21, 2010, 07:05:30 PM
I don't get why people act like tvtropes is a black hole for one's attention.

The website isn't that great to begin with.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: PGGB on August 21, 2010, 07:09:21 PM
I never really got why people get stuck there. Cracked.com on the other hand... that's more of an issue...


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Paint by Numbers on August 21, 2010, 07:18:46 PM
I love TVTropes and the concept behind it, but whenever I go there, I see so many flat-out stupid comments that I go into a mad rage and have to go do something else.

Especially the "Troper's Tales" pages on Lazy But Brilliant and Mad Hatter. You've never seen so many awkward, arrogant people who think that being monkey cheese random whacky is the highest form of humor.

Like I said, though, concept's fun.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Pineapple on August 21, 2010, 07:46:08 PM
I never really got why people get stuck there. Cracked.com on the other hand... that's more of an issue...
:epileptic:


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Vino on August 21, 2010, 08:49:35 PM
It's good for reference when writing something. If you're already familiar with most tropes then it's not as addicting.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Inanimate on August 21, 2010, 09:00:28 PM
I press random page, and only random page, really. I like finding new works, its very useful for that. Sometimes I can get some inspiration, too.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Rob Lach on August 21, 2010, 10:25:11 PM
Don't get it. Don't like it.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Accidental Rebel on August 21, 2010, 10:45:14 PM
Errr... TV tropes?


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: dspencer on August 21, 2010, 11:11:56 PM
Even if no one else will, I'll admit it.  :shrug2:


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Nikica on August 22, 2010, 02:47:08 AM
I never really got why people get stuck there. Cracked.com on the other hand... that's more of an issue...
Agree. There are many sites which can make me suddenly have over 100 tabs open but TVTropes isn't one of them. I sometimes spend hours on sites like Cracked or FMyLife but I don't visit them every day so that I have much more stuff to read once I get there.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: KarenB on August 22, 2010, 03:48:54 AM
I'll gladly admit that I get stuck there on regular basis, and by stuck I mean 100 tabs, XKCD style (http://xkcd.com/609/). I love that site, love reading what other people think of the media I like, and love finding new tropes. :)


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: JoGribbs on August 22, 2010, 03:50:35 AM
I got stuck once, but I've read a good deal of it now : /


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Türbo Bröther on August 22, 2010, 04:34:32 AM
It's like a bloody Choose Your Own Adventure, just keep clicking link after link and hope that you don't die horribly and have to start all over again.

ffffff...


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: TobiasW on August 22, 2010, 04:38:49 AM
I love TVTropes and the concept behind it, but whenever I go there, I see so many flat-out stupid comments that I go into a mad rage and have to go do something else.
There is a comment section? Oh.

Well, just don't look at it? It's pretty hidden anyway, especially if you don't like it.

And hell yes, I get stuck there every time I visit but one page there. So if you will kindly excuse me...


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: AMAZON on August 22, 2010, 07:43:03 AM
i only really stay there for extended periods of time if i'm actually trying to waste time so yeah.

its a great way to waste time.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Paint by Numbers on August 22, 2010, 10:34:50 AM
I love TVTropes and the concept behind it, but whenever I go there, I see so many flat-out stupid comments that I go into a mad rage and have to go do something else.
There is a comment section? Oh.

Funny thing is, there isn't. People manage to comment anyway. You're not supposed to jump into the main pages of tropes sharing anecdotes or whatever, and if you want to correct something, you go in and edit it; no matter how much the site tells people not to, most tropers will just attach some "well, actually..." comment onto the offending sentence.

Also, when giving an example of a trope, tropers have a habit of placing the example with some smarmy comment about how the example should have been on here already, i.e., "Come on, people, <some show nobody has heard of> isn't on here yet? FOR SHAME"

Also, people regularly use hyperlinks to compare themselves to positive tropes (like "Lazy but Brilliant") and, if they're arguing with someone, their opponents to negative tropes ("You Fail Logic Forever").

Those might seem like nitpicks, but given how much the site tries to stop people doing things like that and how irritating it gets after a while, I can't take it. That's why I'm not a big fan of the place.




TVTropes is funnest when you read it the first time. It's entertaining learning about new tropes and I've found some cool shows out of it. Once you get others' terminology and how to properly refer to things, it becomes a bit less magical and even kind of boring.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: SirNiko on August 22, 2010, 04:03:05 PM
I feel like TVTropes is a good idea executed poorly.

The one thing that bugs me the most about TVTrope readers is that they obsessively link to TVTropes in the middle of conversations, as though it's all an elaborate ruse to get you to read a list of unedited, repetitious examples of every movie, TV show and video game that has an exposed pit of lava at some point. As though anyone who plays video games couldn't think of twenty examples instantly. I especially hate the "Nintendo Hard" trope. Why do you need to link to that? Just say the game is "Hard" or "Harder than Solar Jetman"! I'll comprehend what that word means.

If I was in charge I'd change the format to a weekly column where a writer picks some common element in media to discuss. They could briefly describe it for those that might not understand, then give a few salient examples of common usage and potential extremes. Finally, talk about when it's appropriate to use this in your own writing / filming / game design or how to avoid it if it's a bad trope.

That would be fascinating and I'd probably read it each week, doubly so if the person doing the writing was amusing or showed experience.

As TVTropes stands, I only visit when my friend links me there in mid conversation and then I only read the first paragraph and two examples until I get the gist of what she was trying to tell me.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Skofo on August 22, 2010, 05:52:21 PM
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weekly column

That'd be horrible. The wiki format works awesomely for TVTropes for the same reason that it works awesomely for Wikipedia. People generally don't want to have a weekly ration of random knowledge that they probably don't even really care about, they want to search for exactly what they want and indulge in it and things related to it as much as they please.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: AMAZON on August 22, 2010, 06:00:35 PM
a weekly column would be pretty cool as a side thing, where they further delved into the implications of existing tropes, but not as the main site.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Tycho Brahe on August 23, 2010, 12:21:52 PM
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weekly column
That'd be horrible. The wiki format works awesomely for TVTropes for the same reason that it works awesomely for Wikipedia. People generally don't want to have a weekly ration of random knowledge that they probably don't even really care about, they want to search for exactly what they want and indulge in it and things related to it as much as they please.
Actually, I've subscribed to the wikipedia daily article thing, and I think its great. It does a little to broaden ones knowlege of stuff one would never look up on ones own.

(I only wrote one so much because I felt dirty writing "they'd never look up on they're own...")


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: William Laub on August 23, 2010, 01:05:05 PM
(I only wrote one so much because I felt dirty writing "they'd never look up on they're own...")
There are a number of proposed genderless personal pronouns. I've been working on assimilating "thon" into my vocabulary.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: SirNiko on August 23, 2010, 01:10:50 PM
What pronoun does "thon" replace?


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on August 23, 2010, 01:19:21 PM
(I only wrote one so much because I felt dirty writing "they'd never look up on they're own...")
"It does a little to broaden your knowlege of stuff you would never look up on your own."

See, easy as that.

Also, according to the Spelling Gestapo it's "their" not "they're".


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: William Laub on August 23, 2010, 01:28:40 PM
What pronoun does "thon" replace?
It would replace "he" and "she" in any case where gender is not known or specified. Of course, given the current state of the English languages, it probably wouldn't hurt anything to just let "they" serve as both a plural and singular pronoun.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Tycho Brahe on August 23, 2010, 02:09:15 PM
"It does a little to broaden your knowlege of stuff you would never look up on your own."
That makes me feel dirty. And wrong. *shudder*


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Phasma Felis on August 23, 2010, 02:44:56 PM
Funny thing is, there isn't. People manage to comment anyway. You're not supposed to jump into the main pages of tropes sharing anecdotes or whatever, and if you want to correct something, you go in and edit it; no matter how much the site tells people not to, most tropers will just attach some "well, actually..." comment onto the offending sentence.

Also, when giving an example of a trope, tropers have a habit of placing the example with some smarmy comment about how the example should have been on here already, i.e., "Come on, people, <some show nobody has heard of> isn't on here yet? FOR SHAME"

Also, people regularly use hyperlinks to compare themselves to positive tropes (like "Lazy but Brilliant") and, if they're arguing with someone, their opponents to negative tropes ("You Fail Logic Forever").

Those might seem like nitpicks, but given how much the site tries to stop people doing things like that and how irritating it gets after a while, I can't take it. That's why I'm not a big fan of the place.
It's a wiki, yo. Fix that shit! You'll do the world a favor. :)

(In their defense, it's only recently that the site has started to crack down on bad writing, and it's gonna take a while to edit out all the outstanding problems. IMHO, there's already been improvement.


Title: Re: TV Tropes
Post by: Paint by Numbers on August 23, 2010, 02:51:47 PM
It's a wiki, yo. Fix that shit! You'll do the world a favor. :)

You're right, man. I'm gonna go there and change this once and for all.