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This game is fucked up, seriously.  I'm questioning whether I'm even going to download the Xenophobia demo.

On the topic of fucked up games, I found this little gem while watching videos of Demonophobia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CCEhkzuZxo

What the fuuuuck, France.

There are people in the west that can come up with such games. The text also seems to be entirely in English too, so I have a bit of doubt that the linked video showcases a Japanese rape game.

Hm

Maybe this weekend I'd try to take another crack at the end of Super Mario Galaxy 2

I would imagine this is somehow relevant to the discussion.

It's what I'm going to be doing instead of playing "Demonophobia"

Yeah, that'd probably be a good idea.

Hey, this game looks exactly like 'gay hunter' (or something like that) except you're a lady and the rape animation shows much more.

[edit] Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhQJ1igs3DY&feature=related

French, actually. Yeah, I kinda doubt it's a Japanese game.

I must admit, I am trying to do something like that, Andy.
Maybe worst part about that is that many people get wrong image from you.

Afraid of that. :concerned:

Hell, I actually got a boner from watching the game about the chick in the woods  :wtf:

ITT phubans is creepy once again

but this time I can't do that because I am about to be creepy myself: I liked Demonophobia and considered it a good game; although flawed in things like sound design and basic gameplay, I enjoyed playing it and finding out new death animations. Also, it succeeds at being what it wants to be (a guro game for guro lovers) and whether or not a game succeeds at doing what it wants is my scale for considering whether a game is good or not.

I have a "thing" for really weird/disturbing obscure games, though, especially foreign ones (to heighten the mysterious feel). They're like crack to me.

I once saw a movie called "Ichi the Killer". I think that pretty much satisfied my desire for creepy Japanese shit.

Yeah, I loved Yume Nikki, and I feel like some disturbing games have an unsung beauty to them.  But I think this one sorta crosses the line.  There's a certain point where a game goes from "somewhat upsetting/disturbing" to completely disgusting.  Demonophobia crosses this line.

Well, from a design point of view it looks like shit. This whole game could have been easily and more readily conveyed through a different medium.

What medium would that be?

You should see Visitor Q, also by Takashi Miike. Prepare to be traumatized for life.

Anything but a game. A painting, and animation, a short film... etc

Why not a game?

Cuz a game with bad gameplay sucks.  :durr:

Note that I haven't played the game.

Well, the fact that there's no way to attack, and everything around you can kill you, and you can't even hide like in Amnesia.  It basically just makes it a bunch of shitty repetition.  At least Xenophobia has an element of strategy to it.

Basically what they said^

The game looks very slow and unresponsive; you can't jump or hide. You only walk around getting killed 90% of the time, to watch the same 3 death animations ad nauseam. Why didn't the developer just adapt this to a point and click game where you mindlessly click on doors and see the outcome? It would have had the same effect. There's no purpose to having manual movement inputs in a game like this.

You could say this game is similar to SNES Clock Tower, which is one of my favorites, but it is completely lacking in detail, atmosphere, and interactivity. Why even make a game if you're not going to spend time on interactivity? That was my main point.

And I'm wondering how something about a girl being sent to hell and dying in various and horrific ways then resurrecting while trying to escape can be portrayed better in another medium. Sure the gameplay is bad, but without gameplay the concept would make it incredibly repetitive.

What Okenido said. In games, you can start things over and repeat them and not necessarily have it be out of place. In, say, a comic, how are you going to do Demonophobia's plot? "Welp, I died AGAIN! Boy, this is a bad situation I'm in!"

I agree, the concept wouldn't work very well in other mediums, but it just wasn't executed well.  Xenophobia seems to embrace the problems with Demonophobia and give the player a chance.  Save points, stealth elements, weapon to defend yourself, etc.

I was always under the impression it was a game for fans of guro and the endless death "problem" was the entire point..  :-\

It could be an interactive Flash animation.

From your previous idea I still have to say it would be repetitive. It has no goal, no purpose, and just being gore for the interest of just seeing gore.

I do however believe that the game would be better if it removed the dodging of lesser demons and was more of an adventure game.

Oh yeah, no question, it kind of dropped the ball on gameplay.

I think a fear of demons, daemons, devils or similar is a perfectly normal thing to experience. It's ridiculous to pretend otherwise. It is a position to be ridiculed.

As someone who grew up on vidyagames such as Doom and Diablo, I have successfully defeated my own demonophobia. I now live with the comforting feeling that, should I ever encounter one or more demons, daemons or devils I can easily return them to where they came from using an oversized axe or shotgun.

I second this. People who judge others to be creepy based on something they've made are the worst people.

Heh, thank you, Andy and Paint by Numbers. I feel better, thanks to you, and I hope I can finish my project(s) now without being afraid. :P

Oh, C.A. Sinclair, you have played Doom, you win. I quite enjoyed playing them, and still do! One of my favourite (and maybe only) first-person shooters I like! :gentleman: