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Title: W- what?? Post by: phubans on February 15, 2011, 11:37:34 AM The hell is going on here? Was the forum changed while I was asleep? Everything is all mixed up and confusing! Was this Derek's own version of the Winchester Mystery House for the sake of stymieing a rampant phubans? :-\
Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: Landshark RAWR on February 15, 2011, 11:39:15 AM yeah probably, new format is nice though especially how not actually different it's not.
Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: AshfordPride on February 15, 2011, 11:40:43 AM Yo - took a nice dinner with my Valentine to not type and think about the discussion more carefully. It's obviously made me think about indie games as a label. The confusion over what it means. The fact that developers, whether consciously or subconsciously, might be using the label to excuse shoddy work. I've also been thinking about the development of TIGSource and why I did it in the first place and why I now want to do it (something that I haven't thought really hard about in a while). What service I want the site to provide. TIGForums seems to serve people the best as a fun place to meet other creators and facilitate game creation. Period. The front page... I'm still thinking about it, but it started out as a place to do quick reviews of hobbyist/freeware PC games that other sites glossed over. Maybe it's time to return to that, but focus on the really great/obscure ones. IndieGames.com seems to cover everything even remotely indie now and even more mainstream sites like Rock, Paper, Shotgun cover a lot of indie stuff... and I'm not really interested in scooping them. But yes, indie games. I really like what you said here, Anarkex: Quote from: Icycalm It is up to the creators (i.e. the artists) to experiment with the expanded toolset, and up to the receivers (i.e. the critics) to recognize, and point towards, the more aesthetically correct uses. Quote from: Me That's why I said before that the developers should make pretty much whatever they want: this isn't so much about the games as it is the way the community responds to them. You're definitely the brains of the Ashford Pride/Anarkex duo. I apologize for calling you "that other guy" earlier. And yeah, I do get it - the praising of a small indie game as the next coming of Jesus Gaming Christ is sensationalist and dilutes game standards in general. And in all honesty, I'm with you there. A game's merits as a game should not be based on how many people made it. And the community, in the interest of improving themselves, should not really expect that, either, in my opinion. Or want it, even. I fully believe that indie game developers can produce some of the best games ever. But to do that, they have to challenge themselves to be the best, so they should be discussed amongst all games. Substance suggested that perhaps I don't expect the same high standards of the community as I do of my own games, but I do... maybe the site isn't set up completely right, though. So anyway, just a small change for now (maybe relatively drastic in a certain sense) - I'm changing the "Indie Games" forum to "Games" and moving all the games threads from General into here. If you want to discuss Space Funeral you can do it beside Marvel vs. Capcom 3. And General can have its usual ridiculousness going on. I'm going to keep thinking more about the role of the front page of TIGSource and how it will best serve the community now. Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on February 15, 2011, 11:53:39 AM I pooped today.
Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: Dragonmaw on February 15, 2011, 11:56:45 AM this one time i farted on a lady
Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: phubans on February 15, 2011, 11:58:15 AM I fully believe that indie game developers can produce some of the best games ever. Is he talking about me? Love your avatar, btw, Ashford. FOTNS is so ridiculous and awesome at the same time. I pooped today. Funny coincidence. I was shitting on the toilet when I posted that! :lol: Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on February 15, 2011, 12:10:11 PM I pooped today. Funny coincidence. I was shitting on the toilet when I posted that! :lol: Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: phubans on February 15, 2011, 12:46:58 PM For my friend it was looking at maps. When I lived in that hotel in 2007, I used to like to pretend I was hidden in some secret wall with some kind of hidden entrance that no one could ever find. I could hear people passing by on the other side but they had no idea I was in there, listening. For some reason, sneakiness seems to be a helpful factor in pooping :-[
Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: moi on February 15, 2011, 02:00:35 PM yeah it does
Title: Re: W- what?? Post by: moi on February 15, 2011, 02:02:48 PM also:
Yo - took a nice dinner with my Valentine to not type and think about the discussion more carefully. It's obviously made me think about indie games as a label. The confusion over what it means. The fact that developers, whether consciously or subconsciously, might be using the label to excuse shoddy work. Derek needs to fucking take a break(*):facepalm: (* move the words around in this sentence for added fun) |