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Title: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Richard Kain on May 27, 2011, 02:43:23 PM Sony NGP gutted before release? (http://kotaku.com/5806124/has-sonys-ngp-been-gutted-before-release)
This has not been confirmed yet, but the same site that originally provided accurate information on the NGP's reveal is now saying that Sony intends to pare back the handheld's hardware specs. In particular, the NGP's system memory is going to be reduced to 256 MB where it was originally going to be 512 MB, and the 16 Gigabytes of built-in solid-state storage is going to be excised entirely. While only speculation at the moment, I'm thinking this one sounds pretty reasonable. For one thing, it isn't unprecedented. The PS3 also lost several promised hardware features before its release. But perhaps most tellingly, it makes sense from a design perspective. Handhelds have never, and probably will never be sold solely on their power. Scaling the NGPs feature-set up is not as important as providing it to the public at a competitive price. A development like this would indicate that Sony has learned a lesson from the ill-fated PSP, and is attempting to put together a more reasonable handheld system in the NGP. The only real trouble I see from this development is the loss of the system memory. Removing the built-in 16 Gigabytes of storage is a drop in the bucket with the current price of SD cards. (and other removable memory cards) It is a feature Sony can quite easily afford to dispense with, especially if the NGP's cartridges work out well for developers. The loss of 256 MB of system memory is far more dramatic. If there's one thing developers love to have, its more system memory. Slashing that could dramatically effect the handheld's performance. Of course, it could also force them to take a leaner approach to development on the system, which could be better in the long run. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on May 27, 2011, 03:31:01 PM Doesn't come as much of a surprise tbh.
My theory is that the NGP was never really intended to have the originally announced hardware specs and that they were just trying to generate hype. But hey, even with the less-impressive system memory and reliance on SD cards (more likely Sony Memory Sticks™), it's a next-gen handheld! It's not like the current PSP is incapable of running quality games due to inferior hardware. I don't see any desperate need for a huge upgrade. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Player Ʒ on May 27, 2011, 04:08:19 PM They're not removing the back touching?
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: alastair on May 27, 2011, 04:35:28 PM They should just remove any touch features. I was hoping yesterday that they'd make it more powerful, now they make it worse lol.
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Türbo Bröther on May 27, 2011, 04:51:36 PM ... Neo Geo Pocket?
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: bento_smile on May 27, 2011, 05:44:17 PM If only! <3 Neo Geo Pocket
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Superb Joe on May 28, 2011, 01:55:03 PM i owned a neo geo pocket colour. one of 12 people in the world.
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: TheLastBanana on May 28, 2011, 10:18:54 PM Oh man, I still have one of those. If I remember correctly, if you turn it on without any games in, it tells you your horoscope. Also it has a nice d-pad but more importantly HOROSCOPES.
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: alastair on May 29, 2011, 02:40:26 AM I'm only getting the PSP2 if it has sports games coming out on it.
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Superb Joe on May 29, 2011, 03:52:15 AM Oh man, I still have one of those. If I remember correctly, if you turn it on without any games in, it tells you your horoscope. Also it has a nice d-pad but more importantly HOROSCOPES. hell yeah the microswitch thumbstick fuckin owned. you can get usb versions of the neo geo cd pad if you miss it like a teary eyed child. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: capn.lee on May 29, 2011, 06:27:39 AM never expected the console they described to actually ship, wasn't its purpose simply to piss on nintendo's cornflakes?
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: bento_smile on May 29, 2011, 06:42:36 AM Also it has a nice d-pad but more importantly HOROSCOPES. hell yeah the microswitch thumbstick fuckin owned. you can get usb versions of the neo geo cd pad if you miss it like a teary eyed child. Yes, oh god the clicky stick. Part of the reason for liking 3DS and DSi is that the dpad has a click to it which is reminiscent of the NGPC clicky stick. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Gimym JIMBERT on May 29, 2011, 08:54:51 AM I hope it is to kick up battery life
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Richard Kain on May 29, 2011, 09:08:11 AM I hope it is to kick up battery life That's possible. Though I think they already covered that base adequately when they scrapped the UMD format. The power savings from removing the internal memory would be much, much lower than if they removed a disc format. Still, I imagine it would make a difference in battery life, even if it was only to tack an extra hour on. I'm thinking this is more a move for them to reduce initial production costs. With the regularly falling prices of solid-state memory, removing 16 Gigs of built-in memory is a fairly small expense in the long run. But in the short-term it will allow them to lower the initial cost of the hardware. This could help the NGP get a fast start out of the gate. It would also give it a leg up on the 3DS. (which has had a slow start largely due to its abnormally high price) At the end of the day, Nintendo's handheld "formula" has always succeeded. And pushing hardware features has never really been a part of their handheld strategy. Scaling some of those features back on the NGP is probably a positive development for Sony's next handheld. And these particular changes seem more like trimming the fat than removing core features. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Gimym JIMBERT on May 29, 2011, 11:40:25 AM But ngp is ONLY one of the MANY handheld game hardware sony is releasing this time!
What about the S1 and S2 (http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/042511_rg_SonyDualTablet_01.jpg) http://www.digitallydownloaded.net/2011/04/opinion-forget-ngp-sony-tablet-s2-is.html Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on May 29, 2011, 11:47:57 AM But ngp is ONLY one of the MANY handheld game hardware sony is releasing this time! Those are basically Android phones, not serious game systems.What about the S1 and S2 Moving on. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Player Ʒ on May 29, 2011, 11:50:09 AM But ngp is ONLY one of the MANY handheld game hardware sony is releasing this time! What about the S1 and S2 (http://technabob.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/042511_rg_SonyDualTablet_01.jpg) http://www.digitallydownloaded.net/2011/04/opinion-forget-ngp-sony-tablet-s2-is.html Mmmmmmm. That S2 looks suitable enough to replace Micro-Soft's Courier. I wanted that thing so badly. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Gimym JIMBERT on May 29, 2011, 01:00:42 PM I thought the same, courier was the next best thing since slide bread and mario 64!
But ngp is ONLY one of the MANY handheld game hardware sony is releasing this time! Those are basically Android phones, not serious game systems.What about the S1 and S2 Moving on. (http://yannick.bart.free.fr/wp-content/upload/iphone.jpg) Never take phone seriously Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Türbo Bröther on May 29, 2011, 03:10:58 PM Those are basically Android phones, not serious game systems. But the mark of a quality portable is how many fart apps it has on its marketplace.Moving on. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: C.A. Silbereisen on May 30, 2011, 05:47:35 AM Never take phone seriously I don't take the iPhone seriously as a gaming platform either. Your point being?Dont't get me wrong, the iPhone is a great smartphone that happens to have some decent games to kill time with during a bus ride as one of its features. But I don't think I (or most people) would have bought one if it was a pure game system. Actually, I don't take any of these touch-only devices seriously and I certainly don't think they're the "future of gaming." Or maybe they are, but I think they're ultimately a dead end. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: BlueSweatshirt on May 30, 2011, 08:36:08 AM Sony is a big company. The S1 and S2 are not being made as gaming platforms, although I do see the possibility of at least the dual screen tablet being "Playstation certified". That said, I think there's a large difference between "game device" and "device with games".
@C.A. Sinclair I agree. As many people have said before me, the touch-only approach is less than idea for fast-paced games, taking away precious screen space for input and covering the screen with your fingers inevitably gets in the way of seeing what's going on in the game. Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Gimym JIMBERT on May 30, 2011, 09:57:19 AM You don't need to take it seriously, UNreal does that and that's enough for the market. BTW I also a similar disdain pattern from when the ds was just out. I believe the market have a lot to mature enough, but it's already in the strengthening phase.
Title: Re: Sony NGP scaled back Post by: Superb Joe on May 30, 2011, 10:00:05 AM i have an iphone but i would never pay for an iphone. and iphone games are bad and stupid.
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