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(Dont worry, Im not going to post any spoilers.)


I just came back from the opening midnight showing of Wall-E and well... Ill tell you what I thought of it later on, but first I want to talk about movies now.

Honestly, one of the biggest killers I saw of modern day movies in my personal opinion was the last LOTR movie. Not because it was bad or anything, but because it was good. The whole series was a great adventure which so many people around the world enjoyed. Now I know, there are going to be alot of people here who didnt like the movie, thats not what we were talking about here but what I mean is, the series gave all the movie goers a great journey which gave everybody good feelings and most important of all it gave a satisfying conclusion...


...All 11 of them, but thats also not what we are chatting about here.

Now look at movies coming out now. Many are sequels, remakes of old movies, or adaptations from books and videogames. Nowadays, you dont get the "feeling" in most movies. People aren't taken in by anything. Sure you may get a few unique ideas here and there, and im not saying there haven't been good movies out recently because there has been. But you rarely get something in which you actually feel for the characters, or you get sucked into the movie and ignore your surroundings.

This may all be my one lone opinion, but movies have been going downhill for a while now and I haven't seen many things trying to turn things around.

But I just came back from Wall-E.. and, well..

Pixar has always been a shining beacon of hope in the dredge that has been Hollywood scripts and CG, You get unique things and I have rarely ever seen much criticism of any movie they have made. They have ALL been at least decent. (Opinion, I know, but hold on please) and the lowest movie I can think of rank wise may be Cars, but every single one of their movies has been for the most part, truly original and unique.

As stated above, my standards of new movies has somewhat diminished. It all started when I went to see the "Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" movie. I had just finished the books, and when I realized there was a movie out about it, I pretty much exploded with joy.

Then I saw the movie.

That movie was the single most crushing blow I have ever experienced with a movie. It wasnt BAD per se, it was just so different, so not what I was expecting after reading the books that my concept of going into a movie theater cheery and optimistic was all but shattered. I have never really gone into a recent movie with anything more than somewhat low expectations because of the fear that I might be so disappointed again.

So thank you pixar, thank you Wall-E for giving me such a great feeling of going into a movie with such high expectations that I was left feeling full, and optimistic of the future of movies with the experience you left me with.

So now, without further ado, my review.

Actually no, theres one more quick thing I need to mention.
Remember how all Pixar movies usually had a quick animation inf ront of it? Something completely unrelated to the movie you went to see? Well pixar did it again. And it was so well done and slapstick funny that it sent me into the movie with a great sense of joy. Which, I hope was the intended idea.

Ok, I wont really say anything about the story at all, because I was one of the first to see it and Im not that much a dick to ruin it for you guys, so this will be somewhat limited.

I loved the movie. As I said in the IRC post it was one of the best movies I have ever seen, probably in part due to the other movies I have seen lately that have left me feeling empty afterwords (Thanks Jumper) and well...
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I cant continue this right now. Im literally about the pass out and the last 10 minutes have been a blur. Ill try and write a legit review tomorrow in this thread that way tonight I dont post any accidental spoilers due to me not being able to think straight. So until then, I guess talk about what I wrote in the first part of this thread because I have a feeling im not the only one thinking this way here.

Also, if you have a chance before I post a review to see this movie, please do so. as I said, if you go into it with a clear conscience, WITHOUT (fixed) cynical anticipation, or without skepticism, and you go in with happiness, you will not be disappointed. This movie will make you feel good inside.

I dunno. I'm guy and I know I am treat everything new with a skeptical. I think my heart will go out in the middle of this movie and buy more snacks from the snack stall, and it will interrupt everyone's heart looking at the movie, twice, as I try to get past them, and then back in again.

I agree that too many remakes, adaptations and the like are damaging the mainstream movie industry. Not enough original ideas being put out, because the executives prefer to use an existing story that is apparently a 'safer bet'. Look at the lineup of 'in production' movies and you will see this is only going to get worse with remakes/adaptations/sequels like Mulan, Watchmen, Neuromancer, Seven Samurai, Dragon Ball, Friday the 13th, Scanners, S. Darko and so on.

Then again, when the movie industry does try something original, they come up with Beverley Hills Chihuahua. Maybe we should stick with the remakes  ???

As for Pixar, I do think they are a good company, and underappreciated because they make what are seen as just kids' movies. Definitely going to see WALL-E when it comes out down here.

... I have to say though: I loved the Hitchhiker's; It was really one of the best films I had seen in a while, and I am a great fan of the books.

"This may all be my one lone opinion, but movies have been going downhill for a while now and I haven't seen many things trying to turn things around."

It sounds like you're just going to the wrong movies.

Hollywood is a business.  Studios in Hollywood make movies for 1 reason alone: to make money.  You should never go to a Hollywood movie expecting great things.  That's not to say that Hollywood movies won't be amazing works of art, but that happens so rarely that it's barely quantifiable (Godfather, Amadeus, Unforgiven ...).

If you want innovative movies that are worth watching, then you should go to an independent movie.  Personally, I prefer to watch Hollywood movies just because they are more fun, but my fiancee drags me to indies all the time, and they are far more rewarding ... if you want more from your movie than just entertainment.


Wow, we are the only 2 people in the galaxy who liked BOTH the books and the movie!  I thought that I was alone!   :beer:

So long and thanks for all the fish ... da da da dun da dun da dun ... (in my head for the rest of the day)

I sorta totally disagree, actually. I haven't seen Wall-e yet, so I can't make opinions about that, but I'm still loving the movies that have come out recently.

Especially Iron Man. That was one of my favorite watches in a long while, and it was pulled off very well. And I love movies with Samuel L. Jackson in them.

And also, the one movie I'm interested in seeing next year is the Watchmen Movie. It's based off of the graphic novel Watchmen, but I think it could end up being one of the coolest movies ever.

I disagree. I will never forgive the removal of Tom Bombadil.

:beer:

:beer:
Hoorah! I'm not alone!

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=52159665787

bwahahahah!

I was like "Oh, apparently there are a lot of people who liked both" ... then I clicked the link.  I have never even seen a group with only 2 people in it ... until now!

I don't really think anythings changed.  There are always good projects and bad projects.

I think you're forgetting how many s****y movies there are that AREN'T sequels, based on a comic book, etc...

The video game industry is exactly the same...

And, like someone else suggested, there's always the indie scene.  Or, at least, the scene OUTSIDE the main hollywood industry.

By the way, ever seen:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bRMfDbm7nFo (http://youtube.com/watch?v=bRMfDbm7nFo)

It changed my life, and that wasn't really featured anywhere (except a Kenna video that I'm not sure how popular it was.)

Basically, it was made to win Oscars.  And, it rocks!

Speaking of which, I heard there are quite a lot of good games in the indie scene, i hear there is an old school platformer with an amnesiac robot on a floating island fighting against a guy with a phd wearing a helmet and a concrete-made talking toaster, along with cockroaches.

... It might be because I jsut started it :P

Sounds like a ripoff of that film Johnny Mnemonic to me.

Join't.

Movies aren't particularly getting worse. The mainstream films are mostly vacuous (but, it should be pointed out, often still rather fun) shit, the indie films are where most of the real quality's at and the faux indie films miss the mark as often as they hit it (i.e. Juno, from what I've heard. From Golds).

So it is, and so it has been for most of Hollywood's lifetime (although, once, of course, the line between mainstream and what we would now call "indie" films was pretty blurred). So it is also in games, books, or pretty much any art form which also happens to be Big Business.

Man guys I am not going to lie, Wall-E brought me close to crying 10+ times or more. The imagery combined with lack of spoken word is what does it. There were a few sequences where I was so absolutely captured that my eyes started watering. It was a really beautiful movie. I can't believe I'm saying this at all, either. I cannot recommend this movie enough. And I urge you to see a late showing so you won't have to put up with the childrenz.

As for the movie industry, it pretty much falls in with how I feel about mainstream media vs. indie media so whatever.

Seriously though go see Wall-E. I'm so god damned happy.

My thoughts EXACTLY.

I take it you haven't read the graphic novel. The problem for me is that I don't know if I really think Watchmen will be a bad movie, or just a bad adaptation. With bonehead Zack Snyder at the helm I don't see how it will possibly capture the complexity and depth of the graphic novel, but can it be a good movie on its own? I thought V for Vendetta was a great movie until I read the original graphic novel, and now the movie seems terrible in comparison.

Fuck movies. They are like video games for people who can't walk and chew gum. I respect Cinema's past, but most of the shit I've watched lately blows a goat. Crystal Skull? Fuck it, I've written better Indy slash fiction then that.I am Legend? Fuck that, lets rewrite the end so its a boring Hollywood martyr story, yeah thats better then the badass end the book had! Shit, I can't even remember what movies I saw in the theatres lately. Most are disappointing tripe.
I used to be excited for adaptations, but I've come to realize that most are just cash grabs for whomever owns the IP. Lets cut out Tom Bombadill and Rewrite the end!

MAYBE they should stop trying trying to bleach all the intelligence out of cinema. Just because you pack your story with bullshit twists doesn't make it a smart thriller. Just because you have a billion cat scares doesn't make your movie scary!
Fuck fast zombies! Fuck Heroes needlessly dieing in the end! Fuck pretend personal crisis in lives of superhuman beings! Fuck happy endings in 'traditional' movies! Fuck sad endings in 'edgy' movies! Fuck comedies being carried fart jokes and 4 second parodies!

ARGAEGAEGAERGARGARFGAGAGGGGGGggggg...

Just came back from a showing: it's great.  Really really great.

Tom Bombadil's little scene serves no purpose to progress the story in the book, it was like a cheap little irrelevant sidequest, and deserved to be cut.

I saw Teeth today.  It's about a girl who has a vagina with teeth.

Is this a recognised phobia? It should be.

It is part of some myths of my region.

BS, Quiggan. Films are hot shit.

I saw that and thought to myself "no that couldn't possibly..."

Oh GOD NO.

 :'(

Please leave Donnie Darko be Hollywood.


Five now. We are not alone. :beer:

Why is being hot shit a good thing, I want to be as far away from hot shit as possible!

as much as i do love pixar, i'm missing good old 2d animation.

the art is dying and it's not good!

Wall-E is good.  All the silent movie/emotional robot stuff is especially great.  The human/spaceship stuff is less so.  It reminded me of Idiocracy (http://youtube.com/watch?v=dupu6Y1DIJ4), although not as pointed.

YES! I forgot to mention that. If youve seen idiocracy, the first 10 minutes or so will remind you of it.

Sometimes, pussy eats YOU.

Men knocked them out with stones.

Beautiful myths here.

You'll be happy to know that Pixar is now in charge of Disney's 2D animation.

I agree that Wall-E was great, but in my opinion it was slightly tainted by the complete lack of surprises or tension.  Almost every Pixar movie I've ever seen has had at the very least a single scene (or a character, or something in the story, etc) that struck me as a pleasant surprise; Wall-E had none.  It wasn't necessarily that it was predictable or anything, just very, very familiar.  It was still a delight; I mean it was basically a feature length version of Luxo Jr, how can you not love that?  But I still felt just slightly that this was...well that it didn't push quite as hard as some of the previous Pixar films did.  Echoes of Portal and Idiocracy only reinforced that impression for me.  I've left the theater opening weekend for every Pixar film ever (except maybe Toy Story 2, which I didn't see til it hit DVD) with a really distinct feeling of exhilaration, some really raw feeling of WOW.  Not just as a reaction to the visual presentation but to the honesty of the story and the...I guess sense of adventure.  Wall-E didn't really have quite the same spark for me...even Cars gave me this feeling, and that was basically a comedy.

Anyways, not sure if any of that made sense, but great movie, totally worth seeing in the theater, but...felt just slightly, 1% off to me.  To me this makes it one of the worst Pixar films ever made - very much in the same category as Bugs Life for me.  This does, of course, mean its still far better than most other movies that will be released this year!  But yeah.  My two cents.

I just saw Wall-E today. It was pretty awesome. I have no complaints. Except for the annoying children in the theater that kept asking stupid questions loudly and jumping up and down for absolutely no reason. But the movie was real good.

As for movies in general, I don't see the point in being all critical of them and stuff. I have very low expectations of everything and I'm fine with that, because I neither expect nor want to be blown away by every movie I watch. I find it hard to be critical of any movie because even when they're terrible they all seem pretty entertaining to me. The only thing I don't like is when stuff isn't explained. I don't mean I'm the kind of person that doesn't like some loose ends at the end, or likes everything to end up nice and tight in a neat little bundle, I mean like, when someone pops out of nowhere, seems significant for a second and gives you the feeling they're going to reappear, and they're never mentioned again. Or when an item is given to someone that has no significance to the story. I just don't like false foreshadowing. Something is likely to happen -- and then it doesn't.

What was I talking about again?

oh yeah, wally. Ther're alot of things I liked about it. Awesome movie. u shewd c it.

Adam's mention of Bug's Life reminded me.
Antz traumatized me completey. :'(

I was scared for LIFE when I saw that general dude burst into flames.

my god, I dont remember most of that movie because my child brain blocked most of it.

ET had the same effect on me. Because I'm old. :gentleman:

I just saw this today.. i think its probably my second favorite of the excellent pixar films.  great art style/characterization, and a wonderful emotional rollercoaster.

Don't see it after a breakup.


So... lonely...
Their love... so... beautiful... :'(

I just saw it.  Thought it was mostly brilliant.

For some reason it bothered me that the robots all had emotions like humans... I wasn't expecting that...

But, those visuals were amazing.

I saw it two days ago. One of Pixar's Best!
Right up there along Monsters Inc. (Which is my Pixar favorite)
That they were for sure!

-Elmernite

Excuse me if I'm mistaken, as I'm pretty new to these forums and haven't gotten acquainted yet, but I believe th proper comment would be:

HOW CARE AOUT THE GRAPHIC

Am, I right, gentlemen, or is that only applicable to interactive mediums ("games")?

You're right, graphics shouldnt be the main focus of movies. But when its Pixar, they kinda have some high standards that they have set in previous movies, that they HAVE to up the bar each movie.

They did with Wall-e. it was so pretty!

.... does it have bloom?   8)