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http://www.gamefreaks.co.nz/2012/02/29/sega-officially-announces-jet-set-radio-hd/

I heard of this yesterday, and it was quite a surprise to me. I played Jet Set Radio Future on the Xbox, and it was pretty fun (and most certainly unique).

only played jsrf. has one of the best movement systems ive ever seen in any game. just simply rollerblading around is already a lot of fun. the late 90s/early 00s "tude" thing is kinda dated though.

looking forward to the port because i dont have a dreamcast.

fuck you jsrf has the best tude

JSR is one of my all-time favorites. Good to hear the next generation will get to experience it (conveniently).

Still got JSR on the Dreamcast, it's such a sick game. Future was pretty awesome too, except on GBA, that game was terrible.

a whole new audience of people can look at their tvs with blank expressions and say to themselves "but the internet said it was supposed to be good?"

It'd be pretty cool if the sequel gets ported too someday, I've only played the first.

jsr team
jsrf can die in fire because i don't have to stop and "qte paint" big graffiti, i'm locked in scripted battle and dancing suck a ton

So true and applies to so many things.

Looking at you Ocarina of Time.

It applies to anything anyone played when they were young. Old games are consistently and vastly overrated.

nostalgia is a perfectly valid reason for liking something imo  :shrug2:

As long as they don't swap out the music for cheaper alternatives like they have done for other rereleases, I'm a happy bunny

There's nothing wrong with nostalgia, but there's something wrong with any consensus formed by it.

There are a lot of old games that are underrated because nobody played them.
JSR is not one of these - it's a game that barely anyone played and has built up this ludicrous reputation that the actual game can't match.  There are some good things about it, but it's mostly just not a terribly great game.

What do you mean by that? The discussion was about perceptions of quality. A little-known game can only be underrated in this sense if it reached the totally wrong audience due to shitty marketing or some-such.


If you mean to say that JSR can't live up to the hype generated by its small but audacious fanbase circle-jerking on the Internet all the time, then I agree. However, note that JSR was very well received by critics, game developers, and players in its day. Even the legit parts of the consensus say it's a great game.

OoT was mentioned ITT. First played it around 2004, and I didn't care much for it, but I had to admit it was a "great game". Just not as great as it was made out to be.

Oot was copied as soon as it was out, that's why comparatively it looks less great if you played it after. However if you played the game as soon as it was out, almost every games after has his shadow to uplift. And to this day some achievement of the game has not been reach yet.

I still play jsr when I can too, I can't think of other game like it and my only grip is the dated camera system (combine with the weak but just enough collision feedback for wall jump/run) which create some imprecision some times when trying to chain movement.

Oh please.

yup

Better a good old game than a crappy new one

Honestly I'd prefer they updated the UI though, because that's one part that hasn't aged well

why is it that sega endlessly porting games has been a running joke for years but is now ok


possible answer: todays consumers are nerdy nostalgia-loving hipster fucks

if i think of another possibility i'll keep you posted

never understood why ports are a problem

Not even nerdy enough to install emulators, apparently. I guess you speak of "lol im SUCH a nerd" hipsters.

i tried a dreamcast emulator just a few months ago and it was slow and glitchy as fuck so yeah

also i buy games legitimately when i can and prefer paying for a current-gen port over getting some old console from ebay just for the 3 or 4 games that interest me on it and having it collect dust on my shelf. same goes for old consoles i already own. im certainly not going to dig up my snes from fuck-knows-where and hook it up to my hd tv (complete with input lag) just to play yoshi's island or super mario world once every 2 years

Oh, nice. A grafitti art contest.

I would prefer JSRF but eh

JSRF had better level design, but the lack of time pressure sucked out most of the challenge (no other pressures were substituted IIRC). It's a decent game and a poor sequel. To be fair, the shift is understandable, since JSR is frustrating when you're starting out. But it gets better as you get better.


Interesting. I played through JSR once on NullDC (after ~10 times on a real DC), and it was flawless. This was on a merely decent machine I built in 2006. Was it Chankast you tried?

You can download a copy of a game you already own with a clean conscience, whatever the law says.

I own JSR I just prefer JSRF's focus on speed. The spraying minigame really disrupts the game flow, IMO.

yeah and i do that all the time (i've switched to emulation for all my pre-ps2 consoles) but i don't own jsr because i don't own a dreamcast that's the whole point

I own most consoles back to the snes era, and a good chunk of games

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congrats

The movement in JSRF is an improvement in itself, but a pointless one, because there's no pressure. JSRF is the only game I ever gave up due to boredom towards the end.

I like the spraying minigame. It's just a waste of time in certain areas, but when you have to do it with enemies on your ass, it gives the most superb sense of urgency I've seen in any game.


Right. Because crowe was talking about nostalgia and your reply, I forgot that you never played JSR. It'll be interesting to hear what people new to the game, in this day, think of it.

If your machine's up to it, you should switch to emulation for PS2 as well. PCSX2 is nearly perfected at this stage.

Oh hey here's a trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcF3ateXTrI
Not like it says much, but whatever.

While there's no direct sense of urgency (unless you are going for characters), the overall flow of JSRF is better. It's smooth and continuous, as opposed to the stop-start flow of JSR. Besides, not every game needs to have a super pressing sense of urgency. Sometimes it's just fun to explore.

I've never played JSR, but I quite liked the flow of JSRF movement. Even when I got lost (which admittedly was quite often for me) it was still fun to just skate around aimlessly and try not to lose the flow. That was actually probably my favorite part of the game.

Wow, you guys are starting to look like the shithole /v/.
I thought you had more class than this. :concerned:

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ok

Do they talk about games there to?

Is anyone else here old enough to think for a second the thread was about Jet Set Willy?

Anyone?

Anyone?

 :'(

Where the fuck did this come from

Wait... What did we do this time?... Conversation seemed fairly civilized in here.

Okay, okay! Having reread the thread I realize my post was a bit retarded.
I just came from /v/ and I guess my mind was kind of fucked up by what I saw there, and I got the impression I was reading the same hate-spouting shit here.

Case point:
I read this...
...as "All old games are shit, lol. You just think you like them because of nostalgia, faggot. Only Halo 54 Man on Duty: Modern Shooter Tacticool is good now."

I thin you need to chill a little if you read it that way lmao.

Last time I went on 4chan there was a thread with images of a guy who collects tray fulls of condoms filled with his own poo.

You can't compare the rest of the internet to 4chan.

I certainly won't because I'm damned if I'm seeing that again.

I'm not that old, but this was my first thought, too.



It's not like any of the original devs would get any money from you buying it today, anyway.

JSR was a good game, it was more like mario 64 or banjo with a twist: spatial exploration and pathing, collect point (tag are like the red coins mechanics) to win level except with pressure and resource planning and management. Basically because of the increasing pressure from cop who had to think about how to optimize tagging and pathing while still hitting the right time, finding the hardest tags to do before cops became a nuisance, it had a lot of replayability as skills increased, it was the future of pac man. Actually the multiple part graphitti could be use to dodge cop as you teleport from spot to spot on the tag allowing to dodge and keep the combo.

JSRF was a bad tonyhawk game with a bad arena brawler that interrupt the whole game uselessly. Did I mention REALLY bad choreography?

arena brawler? what?

edit: tony hawk? WHAT

^ I vaguely recall something about knocking around police in JSRF.


Not every game needs a smooth and continuous flow. JSR is an emotional roller coaster, and JSRF a carousel, which is inappropriate for a high-speed platformer. There's discord between its basic mechanics and the way they're framed. JSRF was neutered by lack of challenge.

It seems as though something changed well into development, that testers couldn't locate tags quickly enough, failed repeatedly, and got upset. It would've been a bigger problem than in JSR with the larger environments and faster pace. So instead of making paths clearer, they decided to take out the time limit. They took the easy way out.

All speculation, of course, but it'd be surprising if they'd decided to abandon JSR's basic structure from the get-go, considering JSR's great reception.



To be fair, I do hate nostalgia goggles. You just need to account for them when discussing old games.
Casual sycophantic "IMMA PLAY [bad new game] AND HAVE FUN, ENJOY UR ELITISM" shit is so much worse.

its good you can judge people so rapidly based only on one or two statements

most people have to read or use context but not you


No, but seriously; I think JSR was a relatively fun game but aren't we tired of Sega endlessly re-releasing things? I remember when that was a serious complaint and now people eat that shit up like butter, even the awful Crazy Taxi port without the music sold well. It's just teaching them to coast on nostalgia like they always have (they also get by on erotic Sonic fans).

It'd be nice if they created an entirely new Jet Set Radio game with the same sense of style, though that's just wishful thinking.

I'm fine without the timer. The timer was my least favorite part about PixelJunk Eden, for example.

imagine a guy yelling "unskilled labourer" like the jet set radio guy. and theres cool logos everywhere and very funky music. everything is some shade of yellow, and angular japanese writing is EVERYWHERE. except the game is about cleaning toilets and bagging groceries.

This song would become a lot more appropriate. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMYOj2VVS2k)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ObxQX3nUOg

Supah-Bruvvazu