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Title: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 01:34:21 AM
It seems to me that nowadays just about everyone has seen something that they can't explain. Now whether or not what anyone witnesses is of extra-terrestrial origin or not is up to debate. What cannot be debated though is that people are seeing something be it terrestrial or extra-terrestrial.

My curiosity has been piqued recently and I have been asking people I know of to recount their "sightings" and it is incredible to me that most people have some story. My uncle and his girfriend at the time actually sighted an object and experienced what is commonly referred to as "missing time". My mother and her sisters witnessed a "craft" while out on a trip with their parents, an event which my grandpa corroborated and also was able to estimate the object's speed in excess of 2500 mph (this being in the late '70s).

I myself experienced something that I cannot attribute to anything but one of two things: top secret government aircraft or extra-terrestrial craft. On a clear winter night me and two of my friends were just reaching the top of a hill when one of my friends asked if we saw what he was seeing. We proceeded to look up and there was a small, white object falling like a leaf against the night sky. We stood there and watched it for about 30 seconds or so when two other white objects flew into view. These objects positioned themselves on either side of the falling object and seemed to be helping it back up. The objects gradually flew upwards and into and out of the atmosphere. Needless to say the event was quite profound. It was obvious to me that the objects were like nothing I had ever witnessed and were not conventional aircraft due to their ability to fly so high in the atmosphere. To this day I am convinced that what I saw was government or extra-terrestrial in nature.

This brings me to my question: how many of you have actually seen something that you know for a fact is not just a star, planet, comet etc? Not just a light in the sky but something truly mysterious, something that defies what an aircraft, as we know them, can achieve. Post your "close encounters" and theories here.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: ஒழுக்கின்மை on November 11, 2008, 01:35:43 AM
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Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 01:37:13 AM
Oops, sorry. I'm a little tired and I didn't realize that I had put up a wall. Will edit.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Skofo on November 11, 2008, 02:23:54 AM
I saw a ghost in my basement, once. We got some beer and played Brawl.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Luilak on November 11, 2008, 02:37:13 AM
Yes, I've seen things.
Yes, usually late at night, in a rather... lightheaded state of mind.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 02:45:55 AM
I saw a ghost in my basement, once. We got some beer and played Brawl.

At least you got the cool type of ghost. The last time my house was haunted all the damn ghost did was throw cups around the room and make loud, banging noises.

Yes, I've seen things.
Yes, usually late at night, in a rather... lightheaded state of mind.

Stay away from the magic mushrooms son. It's not like what Mario told you.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: William Broom on November 11, 2008, 02:48:55 AM
I saw a light in the sky one night that was pretty freaky, too fast for a plane. It might have been a comet but I think it flashed on and off... or maybe it changed direction. Something made me think it couldn't be a comet but I can't remember what now. It was very late and I might have just been dreaming, but it didn't feel like a dream.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 02:53:07 AM
... or maybe it changed direction.

That's the thing about a lot of these sightings is the fact that these craft are doing some pretty extraordinary things. The three craft I witnessed in particular were unlike anything that I have heard of besides the various reports of UFOs. Now I don't claim to know what these things are but whatever they are it is quite obvious to me that the level of technology involved in them is incredible. For any aircraft to turn on a dime like what these things can do is crazy in and of itself, the G-Force would be insane.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Luilak on November 11, 2008, 03:05:33 AM
Stay away from the magic mushrooms son. It's not like what Mario told you.

I just wanted to grow up :(


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Skofo on November 11, 2008, 03:06:44 AM
... or maybe it changed direction.

That's the thing about a lot of these sightings is the fact that these craft are doing some pretty extraordinary things. The three craft I witnessed in particular were unlike anything that I have heard of besides the various reports of UFOs. Now I don't claim to know what these things are but whatever they are it is quite obvious to me that the level of technology involved in them is incredible. For any aircraft to turn on a dime like what these things can do is crazy in and of itself, the G-Force would be insane.
You sure that it wasn't perhaps a strong light against clouds, light reflected off one of those little bubble things in your eyes or one of those spots you see everywhere after looking at a light?


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Seth on November 11, 2008, 03:10:14 AM
whilst sleeping one night I awoke to find sitting upon my chest a small green humanoid that I knew instinctively to be a Daemon not of this world, a being containing in himself nothing but Evil.  His head was large and bald, his chin narrow and his mouth small.  His nose was bulbous and his eyes looked as if they had been evolved shut, like a mole's, as if he had eyes under that layer of skin but due to lack of light in the Underworld, after generations his kind had no more use for plain vision.  His body was small, his arms and legs skinny and spindly, but either he possessed supernatural strength or through some dark magick he constrained my body to the point where I could not move a single appendage.  The tremendous weight of his small body encumbered my lungs and I had great difficulty breathing.  All the meanwhile the Daemon whispered incessantly into my ear some ghoulish language.  Considering myself a rational man, I supposed that I was in fact experiencing a vivid dream, and decided that, if the ghoul were a product of my mind, I might close my eyes and see if that act would by itself disperse the vision.  I shut my eyes and no longer saw the Daemon, but still I heard his whispers.  I opened them again and to my horror the Daemon was still there.  At this I recognized that I had with me the capabilities of rational thought and the self-conscious awareness that is wholly uncommon to the dream state, and I deduced that I was, in fact, not dreaming.  All the meanwhile my breathing was only becoming more difficult and for the first time in my life I became convinced that I was about to die, or, rather, be killed by the Daemon that sat upon my chest.  I am ashamed to say that with the little breath I had I attempted to beg with the ghoul for my life, while I struggled to physically throw the thing off me.  I could not, but then concentrated on moving my large toe, as it seemed the only part of my body that the Daemon had not completely restrained.  With effort I could increase the range of movement of my toe by miniscule amounts, and suddenly the Daemon vanished.  I sat upright and gasped to fill my lungs with air that I thought would never fill my lungs again, and felt myself a fool, thinking again I must have been in a dream, when looking at the bedside wall (that in the position of my sleep I would have been facing) I noticed the light that came through my bedroom window cast upon the wall the exact colour of the Daemon.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: William Broom on November 11, 2008, 03:14:20 AM
Welcome to /x/


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 03:14:56 AM
... or maybe it changed direction.

That's the thing about a lot of these sightings is the fact that these craft are doing some pretty extraordinary things. The three craft I witnessed in particular were unlike anything that I have heard of besides the various reports of UFOs. Now I don't claim to know what these things are but whatever they are it is quite obvious to me that the level of technology involved in them is incredible. For any aircraft to turn on a dime like what these things can do is crazy in and of itself, the G-Force would be insane.
You sure that it wasn't perhaps a strong light against clouds, light reflected off one of those little bubble things in your eyes or one of those spots you see everywhere after looking at a light?

Yeah, it was probably just a weather balloon  :P


Seriously though, I am 100% sure.

It was perhaps the craziest thing I have ever seen just because I couldn't explain it. The thing that got me the most was the way the first craft appeared to be losing control and how the other craft seemed to come to it's aid and pull it up somehow. I don't know about you but I don't know of any craft that can pull another craft up out of a fall like that.




Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Melly on November 11, 2008, 03:34:10 AM
It kinda sucks for me that I can't remember ever seeing anything that couldn't have been a hallucination. Having witnesses is a big part of that, because it's much harder for a lot of people to get crazy at once with the same kind of hallucination than just one.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 03:44:36 AM
It kinda sucks for me that I can't remember ever seeing anything that couldn't have been a hallucination. Having witnesses is a big part of that, because it's much harder for a lot of people to get crazy at once with the same kind of hallucination than just one.

Yeah, it definitely gives a lot more credence to these types of events. When I first talked to my uncle about the whole "missing time" thing I was somewhat skeptical. However, I then talked to his ex-girlfriend about this and she gave me the same exact rendition as he did. Which makes the vent that much creepier. Apparently they were driving down the road and saw this light and then it was two hours later. The last time they both remembered was 2:00am and then all of a sudden it was 4:00am. I get chills up my spine just thinking about it. Either they got together and dreamed this up for the hell of it, which seems really unlikely due to the fact that they aren't even together anymore, or they really did have this happen to them or at least believe that it did.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Movius on November 11, 2008, 04:43:06 AM
I myself experienced something that I cannot attribute to anything but one of two things: top secret government aircraft or extra-terrestrial craft. On a clear winter night me and two of my friends were just reaching the top of a hill when one of my friends asked if we saw what he was seeing. We proceeded to look up and there was a small, white object falling like a leaf against the night sky. We stood there and watched it for about 30 seconds or so when two other white objects flew into view. These objects positioned themselves on either side of the falling object and seemed to be helping it back up. The objects gradually flew upwards and into and out of the atmosphere. Needless to say the event was quite profound. It was obvious to me that the objects were like nothing I had ever witnessed and were not conventional aircraft due to their ability to fly so high in the atmosphere. To this day I am convinced that what I saw was government or extra-terrestrial in nature.
Far away car headlights vs Mirage


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Oddball on November 11, 2008, 05:47:57 AM
What I could never understand about things like this is, when someone sees something they can't explain they immediately jump to the most ridiculous conclusions. I mean, abnormal weather effect Vs aliens from millions of light years away, or tiredness Vs spirit of the dead reaching out from beyond the grave, should be no contest, but it seems people just want to fool themselves.

When you take a step back and think about these things logically it is amazing how people can actually, and so completely, believe the most ludicrous of things.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Ivan on November 11, 2008, 05:49:33 AM
Do things you've seen on acid count?


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: team_q on November 11, 2008, 06:11:38 AM
whilst sleeping one night I awoke to find sitting upon my chest a small green humanoid that I knew instinctively to be a Daemon not of this world, a being containing in himself nothing but Evil.  His head was large and bald, his chin narrow and his mouth small.  His nose was bulbous and his eyes looked as if they had been evolved shut, like a mole's, as if he had eyes under that layer of skin but due to lack of light in the Underworld, after generations his kind had no more use for plain vision.  His body was small, his arms and legs skinny and spindly, but either he possessed supernatural strength or through some dark magick he constrained my body to the point where I could not move a single appendage.  The tremendous weight of his small body encumbered my lungs and I had great difficulty breathing.  All the meanwhile the Daemon whispered incessantly into my ear some ghoulish language.  Considering myself a rational man, I supposed that I was in fact experiencing a vivid dream, and decided that, if the ghoul were a product of my mind, I might close my eyes and see if that act would by itself disperse the vision.  I shut my eyes and no longer saw the Daemon, but still I heard his whispers.  I opened them again and to my horror the Daemon was still there.  At this I recognized that I had with me the capabilities of rational thought and the self-conscious awareness that is wholly uncommon to the dream state, and I deduced that I was, in fact, not dreaming.  All the meanwhile my breathing was only becoming more difficult and for the first time in my life I became convinced that I was about to die, or, rather, be killed by the Daemon that sat upon my chest.  I am ashamed to say that with the little breath I had I attempted to beg with the ghoul for my life, while I struggled to physically throw the thing off me.  I could not, but then concentrated on moving my large toe, as it seemed the only part of my body that the Daemon had not completely restrained.  With effort I could increase the range of movement of my toe by miniscule amounts, and suddenly the Daemon vanished.  I sat upright and gasped to fill my lungs with air that I thought would never fill my lungs again, and felt myself a fool, thinking again I must have been in a dream, when looking at the bedside wall (that in the position of my sleep I would have been facing) I noticed the light that came through my bedroom window cast upon the wall the exact colour of the Daemon.

Standard case of Sleep Paralysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis)


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Seth on November 11, 2008, 06:28:12 AM
Yep, it really is a fascinating thing.  Scientists have been unable to relate the occurrence of sleep paralysis to any sort of mental instability.   And when you consider how similar the accounts of demons (especially the common sexually invasive demon vision, like the rapist succubus and the incubus of olden times) to the standard account of the alien abductee of being restrained and probed, along with the fact that on average the alien abductees have not been found to be more sane or insane than non abductees, it really gives credence to the thought that aliens really are just this era's supernatural being, having largely replaced demons in social consciousness. 


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: handCraftedRadio on November 11, 2008, 07:04:44 AM
whilst sleeping one night I awoke to find sitting upon my chest a small green humanoid that I knew instinctively to be a Daemon not of this world, a being containing in himself nothing but Evil.  His head was large and bald, his chin narrow and his mouth small.  His nose was bulbous and his eyes looked as if they had been evolved shut, like a mole's, as if he had eyes under that layer of skin but due to lack of light in the Underworld, after generations his kind had no more use for plain vision.  His body was small, his arms and legs skinny and spindly, but either he possessed supernatural strength or through some dark magick he constrained my body to the point where I could not move a single appendage.  The tremendous weight of his small body encumbered my lungs and I had great difficulty breathing.  All the meanwhile the Daemon whispered incessantly into my ear some ghoulish language.  Considering myself a rational man, I supposed that I was in fact experiencing a vivid dream, and decided that, if the ghoul were a product of my mind, I might close my eyes and see if that act would by itself disperse the vision.  I shut my eyes and no longer saw the Daemon, but still I heard his whispers.  I opened them again and to my horror the Daemon was still there.  At this I recognized that I had with me the capabilities of rational thought and the self-conscious awareness that is wholly uncommon to the dream state, and I deduced that I was, in fact, not dreaming.  All the meanwhile my breathing was only becoming more difficult and for the first time in my life I became convinced that I was about to die, or, rather, be killed by the Daemon that sat upon my chest.  I am ashamed to say that with the little breath I had I attempted to beg with the ghoul for my life, while I struggled to physically throw the thing off me.  I could not, but then concentrated on moving my large toe, as it seemed the only part of my body that the Daemon had not completely restrained.  With effort I could increase the range of movement of my toe by miniscule amounts, and suddenly the Daemon vanished.  I sat upright and gasped to fill my lungs with air that I thought would never fill my lungs again, and felt myself a fool, thinking again I must have been in a dream, when looking at the bedside wall (that in the position of my sleep I would have been facing) I noticed the light that came through my bedroom window cast upon the wall the exact colour of the Daemon.

Standard case of Sleep Paralysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_paralysis)

Whatever helps you get to sleep at night...


As for me, I had an experience too once. I found this 'being' that I was able to lure into my room with reese's pieces. He looked scary but he turned out to be a nice guy. Later he babbled on about trying to call his parents or something so I flew him home on a bicycle while the cops were chasing us.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Melly on November 11, 2008, 07:54:56 AM
I've had cases of sleep paralysis. It was kinda freaky, because sometimes it could get pretty hard to snap out of it. I had to try and make physical effort, like building strength for one fast movement and then getting up.

Maybe it wasn't sleep paralysis, now that I think about it, but it was annoying nonetheless.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Alevice on November 11, 2008, 08:53:09 AM
Yep, it really is a fascinating thing.  Scientists have been unable to relate the occurrence of sleep paralysis to any sort of mental instability.   And when you consider how similar the accounts of demons (especially the common sexually invasive demon vision, like the rapist succubus and the incubus of olden times) to the standard account of the alien abductee of being restrained and probed, along with the fact that on average the alien abductees have not been found to be more sane or insane than non abductees, it really gives credence to the thought that aliens really are just this era's supernatural being, having largely replaced demons in social consciousness. 


Vey likely. On Mexico, people still believe on demonic entites far more than on aliens, so the sleep paralysis is often addressed as a dead man lying on top of you. The tradition says that you must continually start say offensive words so the effect may pass sooner.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 10:09:10 AM
What I could never understand about things like this is, when someone sees something they can't explain they immediately jump to the most ridiculous conclusions. I mean, abnormal weather effect Vs aliens from millions of light years away, or tiredness Vs spirit of the dead reaching out from beyond the grave, should be no contest, but it seems people just want to fool themselves.

When you take a step back and think about these things logically it is amazing how people can actually, and so completely, believe the most ludicrous of things.

Hey, your guess is as good as mine as to what I saw that night. All I know is that whatever it was it was something that has not been disclosed to the general populace. Unless you can get me a description that fits what I saw (two objects being able to "pull" another object up) I will only be able to speculate as to their origin. I consider myself a pretty rational person and I am not jumping to conclusions on this one. I only know what I saw, and what that was remains a mystery. All I know for certain is that they were not optical illusions and that they had to be intelligently controlled due to the fact that I have never seen nor heard of any comet or space debris being able to fall and then accelerate back up.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Chris Whitman on November 11, 2008, 10:14:05 AM
I think the most interesting aspect of this is when you start to look at how little of a visual field we actually have, and how much information about what we see is filled in by the brain later on using what we already know. Honestly it's kind of surprising that we ever manage to recognize anything correctly.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 10:25:15 AM
This is very true. Believe me, I have seen other things in the sky that I could not easily identify when I was younger and would usually try to pepper it as being some sort of alien ship in my enthusiasm. More often than not though, these objects would variably be comets, satellites or some terrestrial phenomenon. The time in question was different though. I would have merely passed these objects off as the same type of things I had witnessed before had it not been for the two additional objects that "helped" this other object up. I don't know what they were and like I said their origin could likely be terrestrial in nature (even the B-2 was mistaken as "alien craft" before it was declassified), I do know that I saw them and witnessed the behavior they exhibited and it was most certainly not anything that has been declassified if it was military in nature.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Cheater‽ on November 11, 2008, 11:14:03 AM
Unless you can get me a description that fits what I saw (two objects being able to "pull" another object up)
Two swallows carrying a coconut.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 11:20:10 AM
Unless you can get me a description that fits what I saw (two objects being able to "pull" another object up)
Two swallows carrying a coconut.

Yes, Space Swallows able to propel themselves out into the dark recesses of space  :D



Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: moi on November 11, 2008, 11:42:42 AM
First of all, excuse my mistakes but english isn't my first language and I'm going to improvise a bit here:
The most underestimated thing to study about UFOs is the so-called skeptic point of view, these people use Ufology as pretexts to be pedants and pretend they have a higher intelligence than others. Skepticism is a good thing, but it must always be associated with an open mind.
As an amateur ufologist I have studied many reports (I know of most cases) and although most of these are either lunatics, crooks, or misidentified normal phenomenons, I have personally come to the conclusion that there are some unexplainable things in the atmosphere that need to be studied.
When I say "unexplainable things" I mean things that look like technological objects with uncomprehensible flight caracteristics.
Basically I came to the same conclusions that the Cometa report.
There are many interesting cases, among others: the belgium wave, but there are many other well documented cases by credible witnesses.
I'm thinking of this case where 5 policemen of different counties followed an object during several hours (forgot the paticular reference to this one)
Unfortunately, ufology is a difficult thing to study because of:
-rarity of actual phenomenon
-incredibly low signal to noise ratio
-fanaticism (both ufo lunatics and skeptics)
-general sarcastic tone adopted by the media

The disclosure project for example is very interesting (youtube it), although one can cast doubts about the integrity of the project originator, it's difficult to cast doubt on the testimony of all these retired pilots and military personal.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 12:00:44 PM
The shear amount of reports by credible witnesses is also staggering. I have read, watched and spoken with those in the aviation fields who have seen these phenomena and have no explanation that they can give even with their extensive experience in the aviation field. It is quite obvious to me that something is occurring, now as to what that may be I cannot, with any certainty, claim to know.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: William Laub on November 11, 2008, 12:05:03 PM
Not long ago, I came across an interesting reason that we haven't seen any alien spacecraft. Any alien race capable of crossing multiple light years of space is also likely to be capable of sending microscopic computers and spacecraft instead of wasting 46000 tons of fuel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Daedalus) on something large enough to be seen.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: moi on November 11, 2008, 12:15:26 PM
I see no reason for an hypothetical space faring race to establish contact with humanity as it is today , we must look like real barbarians. We are unable to achieve peace within our own species, we are ruining the environment and unwilling to act against this, personal economical interests dominate over global interests, inside our governments exist shadowy organizations acting against their own people, etc, etc...


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Cheater‽ on November 11, 2008, 12:18:57 PM
I see no reason for an hypothetical space faring race to establish contact with humanity as it is today , we must look like real barbarians. We are unable to achieve peace within our own species, we are ruining the environment and unwilling to act against this, personal economical interests dominate over global interests, inside our governments exist shadowy organizations acting against their own people, etc, etc...
The NEW field of entertainment: No fiction, no actors, see REAL civilizations tear themselves apart!


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Melly on November 11, 2008, 12:24:24 PM
I see no reason for an hypothetical space faring race to establish contact with humanity as it is today , we must look like real barbarians. We are unable to achieve peace within our own species, we are ruining the environment and unwilling to act against this, personal economical interests dominate over global interests, inside our governments exist shadowy organizations acting against their own people, etc, etc...
The NEW field of entertainment: No fiction, no actors, see REAL civilizations tear themselves apart!

As horrible as this may sound, it's not very farfetched.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 11, 2008, 12:33:24 PM
The ironic thing is is that if a far advanced alien civilization watches us for entertainment they are just as barbaric as we are.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Melly on November 11, 2008, 12:44:56 PM
Totally possible. And scary.

"Meh, these little pink fleshbags are starting to live in peace and fix their environment. Boooring. Who's in for scorching them all alive slowly?"


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: moi on November 11, 2008, 12:47:52 PM
We are probably worthy of being studied just out of scientific interest.
there must not be a lot of other civilizations (if any) in the universe.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: mrfredman on November 12, 2008, 11:59:37 AM
Tthanks to the history in channel, over the past few years I've become a minor-UFO junkie (just in that I feel I'm up to date on all the latest major finds) and for the most part, I think they are mostly a load of garbage. My biggest problem is with alien abductions and people who see alien beings, because if there truly were advanced intelligent life forms with the technology to travel across the solar system, why would they send fleshy death-prone beings when they could just send microscopic robotic probes or something else along those lines.

That being said, the one case that really intrigues me, and that might actually be something super awesome from another planet, is footage of alien fleets over mexico. There are a bunch of them, some videos more convincing than others.
A really convincing video can be found here. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=l_Lzb8fdJaA)

I also planned to rant a little bit about how Spore convinced me that aliens were real, and that they were just abducting us to complete missions in space, but I ran out of energy, so that can wait.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Alevice on November 12, 2008, 12:45:39 PM
because if there truly were advanced intelligent life forms with the technology to travel across the solar system, why would they send fleshy death-prone beings when they could just send microscopic robotic probes or something else along those lines.

Well, maybe they are field scientists. Maybe their civilization won't fund those guys for robotic research, so they came on their own, much like we do when researching animal behaviour. Or maybe they be pirates.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Skofo on November 13, 2008, 12:17:46 AM
Relavent to thread? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQA1d0QQvf8&feature=PlayList&p=8AA2E8D78E57BECF&playnext=1&index=16)


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: neon on November 13, 2008, 12:32:24 AM
what do you think of this, people?

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/orbs.shtml

i personally think it's interesting, if dubious at best.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Skofo on November 13, 2008, 12:39:48 AM
what do you think of this, people?

http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/orbs.shtml

i personally think it's interesting, if dubious at best.
Dust specks. It's normal since that dude seems to angle his camera upwards a lot, giving dust a nice platform to land on.

A lot of weird "sightings" are actually camera quirks. Like those "ghost" pictures. They're actually reflections or film malfunctions or something of the sort.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: Movius on November 13, 2008, 03:56:10 AM
you people are nuts.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: moi on November 13, 2008, 07:41:02 AM
"Chemtrails" and "orbs" are bs. I doubt most of the "abduction" stories.
That's my take on it.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: skaldicpoet9 on November 14, 2008, 11:32:57 AM
My biggest problem is with alien abductions and people who see alien beings, because if there truly were advanced intelligent life forms with the technology to travel across the solar system, why would they send fleshy death-prone beings when they could just send microscopic robotic probes or something else along those lines.

According to this book I've been reading:

Quote
They indicated that their work was necessary and for the the betterment of mankind-that mankind could destroy itself through pollution.

Quote
"The problem apparently involves man-made toxins working their way through the food chain. It has something to do with chemicals and chemical changes. It has to do somehow with nuclear testing or wastes, which are causing a change in certain chemical compounds. Much more is involved than simple pollution.

Quote
...the problem has already passed a certain state. It has moved from water to vegetation onto animals. ..the extent of contamination was being determined by studying the reproductive system of animals.

-excerpted from Alien Agenda by Jim Marrs




Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: narasu on November 15, 2008, 12:56:10 PM
i'm quite the skeptic, but if there is civilization on alien planets, I think that the aliens that come here are explorers and after taking a quick look around, don't think it's worth interacting with us humans.

Also, one ship might be hostile whereas the other is completely peaceful.

And maybe aliens have religious rituals or something.


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: KennEH! on November 15, 2008, 06:58:32 PM
Maybe Xenu will come for us?


Title: Re: Close Encounters of the First Kind?
Post by: pnx on November 16, 2008, 10:31:22 AM
The truth may be out there, but lies are inside your head.