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On the Xbox only... I think... Well I played it, it was actually much more fun than I expected!

Go download!
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Oh, and thankfully, no werehog in the demo.
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Pity I haven't heard much positive feedback for that game.

I can't judge, but I too heard it was pretty mediocre. And had too many cutscenes.

At least mediocre is a big step up from flaming failing awfulness.

And bestiality  :-[

The 3D Sonic games are a perfect example of developers feeling like they have to pad out a pure, straightforward experience with filler to make it feel "worth" the money paid for the game. Why not just produce a shorter game that's fun 100% of the way through? I'm amazed that after so many poorly-received titles, they still haven't gotten the message.

They're pleaseing the ever-growing species, know as the fangirls. They should just make a Sonic Adventure Three, and base the gameplay off of IT. No gimmicks, no more annoying supporting characters, and make the gameplay the same through-out the whole game.

Base it on the Hedgehog engine. YOU'VE GOT A PERFECTLY FINE GAME.
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For the fangirls, obviously.

You wouldn't complain if they were dolphins. :eyebrows:

I can't really understand why Sonic has to be in three dimensions. Isn't the whole point of the series to go so fast you disappear off of the right side of the screen and magically pass through objects to beat Green Hill Zone Act 1 in twenty four seconds?

I've never done this...

I think it's more about the consumer's perception of value, which demands 3D for a full console release.  The sonic game on DS was 2D.

Oh, man. True dat. :-*

Sure. You can do this in 3D, though. The trick is to keep the gameplay 2D. I mean, Super Smash Brothers does this and does it well by confining the camera to a fixed side view and confining player movement to two axes. I thought this was what they were doing in Sonic Unleashed, but noooo, they just had to throw in those stupid werehog sequences.

Sonic Team are a bit like that guy at the office Christmas party. You know, that guy.

The guy that smells of rancid cheese, eats everything that's on the fridge and then lets the host know his fridge is empty, and proceeds to try and win chicks that couldn't be more disgusted with him, trying to aim for the most drunk ones?

2.5D
The character models are 3D, the enemies, 2D.

I thing the stage are models, just not done in real-time.

Oh, and you nailed it Melly.

I kind of agree. This is probably why the DS games were better: they were done by another company (DIMPS). I note this company also did daytime level design for the PS2/Wii version of the new game, which could explain why people say those parts of that version are good. I haven't played it, though, so I wouldn't know - you peoples and your 360s and your PS3s and your Atari Jaguars >:D.

Actually, does anyone own this game here? Then we'd get an honest opinion on it.

Judging by the demo, which I just played, this game will suck asssss. Just terrible.

The 360 version... Under Par, I hope when my little brother gets the Wii version, it'll be better.

... the Master System version, possibly?   :beer:

So this game is both good and bad at the same time. It's like Shroedinger's Hedgehog  ::).

Eeegra's fancy new podcast had some interesting and amusing things to say on the matter.

http://www.eegra.com/pages/show/title/05_12_2008_We_done_a_podcast_/

Not to be nasty, but really? You honestly think it'll be better? And you're willing to purchase, rather than say... rent it first? Save some cash? It, after all, will still have the apparently sluggish, dull Werehog bits. It's likely to be short, as well. You think that they'd bother to do something different for the Wii, rather than go the easy route and add a little gimmick?

I am demonstrably and unashamedly biased though. I loved Sonic as a kid, and the old games are as good as they ever were. That hedgehog should really lose the additional Dimension*. Don't you see what you've done, Sonic Team? There's STILL TIME. TURN BACK. TURN BACK.


EUGH: Boy, that reads like a post straight outta another forum. My Opinions, let me show you Them. I'm keeping it, but I'll keep sentiments like this to a minimum. I'm just worried Imp here may be wasting some money. And time.


*SECRET HYPOCRITICAL SHAME COUNTERPOINT. No shame in games.

I'm a Sonic fanboy. I know the games are really terrible, but I still liked all of them (even the Shadow and the 360 one). I will probably like Unleashed, too.

Oh, wait. Not ALL of them. I don't really like Sonic Heroes. Simply because the emerald collecting is broken. What I liked about the Adventure ones was that you didn't need to master a broken game just to see the ending of it.

This thing reminds me of something I hated about Ico, actually. I loved the game, but every so often (fairly often, actually) you'd just get into a button mashing contest with some blah looking shadows which you would hit with a stick for 10 minutes. It was just pointless game lengthening and I disliked it implicitly. You'd be solving a big puzzle, looking at the pretty scenery, and suddenly it'd just devolve into boredom. It seems like this is the same thing, only more so?

I hate that sort of thing in games. Seriously. It's a design flaw that appears a lot, too.

On the other hand, I'll probably still end up buying this eventually, if only because I'd be getting it for ps2, which is inexplicably half the price of all other console versions (including for the Wii, where you get EXACTLY the same game for twice the cost  :P).

Well, I think Sega's finally, officially lost it:

http://www.gamespot.com/wii/adventure/sonicandtheblackknight/index.html

This is probably the very, very last thing anybody in the world was hoping for out of the Sonic franchise.

Yeah your a bit behind there bud.

Besides I think SEGA lost it a while ago. Someone really needs to start cleaning house and get better people in there.

There is no way they can come out with any version of this game for any console that will not be ass. Even if they made it 2d. Yes, even then. Because you can't even charge up, and it's got those shitty timed-button press sequences that are not only already annoying as hell but, in this instance, too slow to prove any challenge. The camera is shitty too.
Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were alright, but even then, the blue hedgehog was on a downhill road, then merely a grade, now a cliff. Mind you, I've never been much a fan of Sonic in any case, but even without the older, 2d Sonics biasing me, these newer games aren't just crappy Sonic games, They're crappy games. Period.

So, if you feel that way, what do you think of Rush, Advance, etc i.e. the 2D handheld ones? They're generally pretty good. Rush, at least, feels like the old Sonic games, which is nice :).

No, the 2d ones are cool. I said that weirdly, but I was talking about the 3d ones. My remark about Unleashed making a shitty 2d game even was specifically pertinent to Unleashed making a shitty 2d game, not Sonic making shitty 2d games. Sonic makes pretty great 2d games. I was saying that about Unleashed because you can't even charge up, which is like, one of the things I recognize Sonic best for.

Yeah, I guess so. I don't keep my ear to the ground with regard to Sonic news, I'm afraid.

They badly need a head designer with some vision and discipline who can create a streamlined, consistent game experience.

I think they just need to stick to the basics, and get writers form Archie comics. Sonic Unleashed would've been a good game had it not been for the Wearwolf parts in my opinion. Once they can make a good game at that point, then they can add to it. Archie just has the better plots and character designs.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v639/RecAsiakoth/TailshasjoinedtheMLB.png)

 :'(

Fleetway > Archie. Any day. Too bad they ended...

I have more hope for Black Knight than Unleashed. The last Wii Sonic, Seven Rings, was actually a fairly good offering because they bound it up like a racing game, bringing it back to the only worrying about two axis of movement thing. Only like a racing game rather than a platformer. If they tweaked it out right it could be just the thing to get the franchise going back in kind of the right direction.

Although most likely they'll get bogged down in the whole 'sword combat' thing and either make it suddenly become some shitty brawler when you fight or add a bunch of retarded button mashing minigames.

Well, so far I have yet to see a screenshot from that game where Sonic isn't holding a sword. I'm going to guess that the sword is not for platforming or racing purposes. In other words: one shitty brawler, coming right up...

From the video (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/41367.html) it looks to me more like they just took the Secret Rings template and shoehorned it into Medieval setting. Switching up a bunch of the animations a bit to make spin/slide attack to look like sword fighting, but keeping the emphasis on speed. Realistically you've only got to look at the relative release dates. Secret Rings only came out a year and half ago. It's not like they would have had time to make a shitty brawler engine, what with all the stupid music and CG Movie bullshots they have to do to make the average 3D sonic game :)

In the end, it doesn't really make any differance to me, the only next gen console I own is a DS. :)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f6/Dk_troopers.jpg/330px-Dk_troopers.jpg)

(http://p-userpic.livejournal.com/72487258/15129463)
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Also I don't think the character you posted was meant to be taken seriously.