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Title: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 09, 2008, 06:38:32 AM
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Blitz Basic Community (http://www.blitzbasic.com/Community/topics.php?forum=61) (Blitz Basic)
Castle Paradox (http://www.castleparadox.com/ohr/viewforum.php?f=3) (OHR)
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Gaming World Forums (http://www.gamingw.net/forums/index.php?board=229.0)
Game Maker Community (http://gmc.yoyogames.com/index.php?showforum=11) (Game Maker)
Glorious Trainwrecks (http://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/view/hostedwreck)
iDevGames (http://www.idevgames.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=25) (mac)
IndieGamer.com (http://forums.indiegamer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=4)
Ludum Dare (http://www.ludumdare.com/compo/)
LÖVE CLUB (http://love2d.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=5) (LÖVE)
Mugen Fighters Guild Forum (http://mugenguild.com/forumx/index.php?board=309.0)
Retro Remakes (http://www.retroremakes.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=8)
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Others:

Artsy Games Incubator (http://nomediakings.org/artsygames/games)
The Daily Click (http://create-games.com/forum_forums.asp) (Clickteam)
Developia (http://www.developia.de/developia/projects.php?o=dd&t=1) (auf Deutsch)
DevMaster (http://www.devmaster.net/forums/)
EO Community (http://eocommunity.co.uk/index.php) (Private, invite-only, game-maker)
Experimental Gameplay Project (http://www.experimentalgameplay.com/show.php?mode=games&order=mostrecent)
Linux Game Tome (http://happypenguin.org/forums/index.php?c=5) (linux)
Indie Zen (http://www.indiezen.org/phpbb/) (Zen Engine)
Rogue Temple (http://www.roguetemple.com/forums/index.php?board=5.0) (Roguelikes)
The Poppenkast (http://www.thepoppenkast.com/games.php) (discussion (http://www.thepoppenkast.com/forum/index.php?board=14.0))
64digits (http://64digits.com/games/index.php?wip=0) (wip section (http://64digits.com/games/index.php?wip=1))

Flash Portals:

Kongregate (http://www.kongregate.com/forums)
Albino Blacksheep (http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/community/)
Newgrounds (http://www.newgrounds.com/game/) (portal)



It was weird entering in LD13, sort of shifting into a parallel community for a couple of days, who use a wide range of different tools, and have enough of a different slant in their approach to games that I might be willing to designate them a separate 'school'.  There were a lot of games (the Towlr ones, for instance) that I had never heard of before, but that were seriously interesting. 

But anyway, I realized that though there're many of them, it's still reasonably possible to compile an informative list (provide we don't worry too much about getting a comprehensive list of flash portals), to get a sort of overview of the indie-communities about.

Hmm...I'm not sure quite how best to go about categorization, now that I think of it.  In principle particular game dev tool forums shouldn't be ruled out, but one would like to see a community of people making particular games, not just a tech Q&A board with little or no presence of finished products (yeah, I guess I'm taking as my model TIGsource...).

Really I guess I'd like a quick way to navigate between all these various and diverse game making communities (that often don't overlap much with each other), and see what they're up to.

Maybe this would be a hopelessly messy task?


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: ஒழுக்கின்மை on December 09, 2008, 06:42:40 AM
Yeah, there are different groups. Another one is the indiegamer.com crowd, who make mostly shareware indie games. The GMC community (the game creations forum) would be another. Another would be the gamedev.net forums crowd. There's the Grand Text Auto type stuff too. There are probably hundreds of them. Some people are involved in several, and some people just focus on one.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Hajo on December 09, 2008, 06:46:45 AM
A list would be useful. I found this just by chance, since Terry mentioned it on another forum. Even if each island is different, I'd like pointers on shipping routes from one to the others ;)


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Hayden Scott-Baron on December 09, 2008, 06:51:58 AM
Ludumdare is an interesting community because it doesn't have a forum at all!  It has an IRC channel that is always active to some extent, and many of the main people behind LD have their own forums, but it doesn't really have a hub other than a shared blog. I'm not used to this sort of thing.

Their one-man approach to the contest also breeds a different type of person.  I quite like it, it's a pretty friendly community.

Other obvious communities are the ones that exist around game-creation programming languages, like pygame, blitz, Darkbasic, Unity, etc. Most of the people there count as indie by virtue of what they are doing is amateur to some extent.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 09, 2008, 06:56:09 AM
Another would be the gamedev.net forums crowd.
Oh, I hadn't noticed that they have an announcement (http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/forum.asp?forum_id=6) board before; I generally just go there for their rather fantastic tech boards  :D  There's a lot of crud there, to be sure, but a couple faces I recognise.

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Ludumdare is an interesting community because it doesn't have a forum at all!  It has an IRC channel that is always active to some extent, and many of the main people behind LD have their own forums, but it doesn't really have a hub other than a shared blog. I'm not used to this sort of thing.
Yeah, I found the whole community aspect to be pretty confusing myself.  There is a definite community there though.

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Their one-man approach to the contest also breeds a different type of person.  I quite like it, it's a pretty friendly community.
I didn't go to their IRC room until after the deadline, and generally didn't get into the spirit of LD13 (except for the game-making part...).

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I found this just by chance, since Terry mentioned it
ditto


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 09, 2008, 07:07:04 AM
Okay...so a tentative (very short, doubtless to increas by several orders of magnitude)

I'm also linking directly to their feedback forums.  If they don't have one, or something like it, then I guess that's a reason to exclude them from the list?  Also, private forums (like poppenkast) aren't included.  Both of these points are up for debate.  Either way, each of the others can be accommodated to their some list (maybe the main one, maybe a sibling list).

Anyway, a start:

[MOVED TO FIRST POST; will keep it updated there]

I'm sure there're a couple of people who do the rounds publicising games on various forums who must be able to suggest many other places?


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: ஒழுக்கின்மை on December 09, 2008, 07:11:53 AM
If you're just looking for social places where indie games tend to be released. There was one at garage games too I think. And there's the experimental gameplay project. There's castle paradox for the OHR. There's probably equivalents somewhere for zzt, mmf, blitzbasic, blitz3d, rpgmaker, mugen, and so on.

p.s. also retro remakes.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: ஒழுக்கின்மை on December 09, 2008, 07:15:25 AM
Actually, if you really want to know where they all are, ask Tim W, he probably has his brain directly attached to all of them, in order to achieve the level of coverage he achieves.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 09, 2008, 07:23:23 AM
If you're just looking for social places where indie games tend to be released. There was one at garage games too I think. And there's the experimental gameplay project. There's castle paradox for the OHR. There's probably equivalents somewhere for zzt, mmf, blitzbasic, blitz3d, rpgmaker, mugen, and so on.

p.s. also retro remakes.
I've started adding some of those.  I don't think EGP really counts though for what I've been thinking of.  It does have interesting stuff, to be sure, but doesn't feature much/any discussion, or feedback as such.  It functions more as a portal.  Though maybe the same could be said about LD?  Hmmm.

Actually, if you really want to know where they all are, ask Tim W, he probably has his brain directly attached to all of them, in order to achieve the level of coverage he achieves.
Good idea.  Let's see what others have to say.  If, after others have contributed the list still feels lacking, I'll send him a mail.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: laserghost on December 09, 2008, 06:28:56 PM
Here's some suggestions, though I'm not sure of the status of the community, if any, surrounding these sites:

http://64digits.com/
http://www.newgrounds.com/ (Flash portal yes, but an important one.)
http://nomediakings.org/artsygames/


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Zaphos on December 09, 2008, 06:38:45 PM
allegro.cc is another one -- it has some interesting traditions, like speedhack, minorhack, etc


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 09, 2008, 06:45:13 PM
Cheers Shoo.  I've made notes of those.  Not sure where to add artsygames and 64digits...for now I'm going to put them in the 'other' section.

allegro.cc is another one -- it has some interesting traditions, like speedhack, minorhack, etc
Hah! How could I have forgotten allegro.cc?  It's the only games forum other than this one that I've posted on  :D


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Aik on December 09, 2008, 08:44:25 PM
In the realm of indie PnP RPG making, there is The Forge (http://www.indie-rpgs.com) and Story Games (http://www.story-games.com). Not sure if they fit into your list...


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 09, 2008, 08:48:45 PM
In the realm of indie PnP RPG making, there is The Forge (http://www.indie-rpgs.com) and Story Games (http://www.story-games.com). Not sure if they fit into your list...
not really, but cheers all the same :)


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Edmund on December 09, 2008, 08:49:32 PM
is the gametunnel.com community still active? -Edit. nevermind.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Türbo Bröther on December 09, 2008, 08:57:31 PM
Me and my homies (http://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/).


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 09, 2008, 09:41:50 PM
Me and my homies (http://www.glorioustrainwrecks.com/).
added (took me a couple of seconds to navigate through the train metaphors though...)


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Türbo Bröther on December 09, 2008, 09:46:40 PM
Yes, as you can see we are very serious about our work.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 09, 2008, 09:47:17 PM
Yes, as you can see we are very serious about our trains.
verily


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Loren Schmidt on December 10, 2008, 12:24:45 AM
There's also http://www.roguetemple.com/


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: brog on December 10, 2008, 12:35:23 AM
http://www.shmup-dev.com/forum/


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 10, 2008, 05:33:42 AM
I've added roguetemple to the 'other' list for now, and shmup-dev to the main one (for format reasons rather than content ones).

Cheers,


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Rudolf Kremers on December 10, 2008, 06:11:09 AM
Good thread!
What about the modscenes using game engines to create new content?


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 10, 2008, 06:14:00 AM
Good thread!
What about the modscenes using game engines to create new content?
Could create a separate list for those? (Could keep it on this thread though).  If you care to compile one, or start one off, I'll add it to the first post.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Rudolf Kremers on December 11, 2008, 02:46:37 PM
I am too out of date to help on that one, last time I was knowledgeable in that area was in the heyday of quake modding :-)


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 11, 2008, 02:50:54 PM
I am too out of date to help on that one, last time I was knowledgeable in that area was in the heyday of quake modding :-)
Oh?  Did you contribute to any yourself?  I was...big on a lot of quake mods...ohmanIwas...


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: Rudolf Kremers on December 11, 2008, 04:07:15 PM
I did quite a few quake levels, they did quite well.
Have a nostalgic  :gentleman: moment if you like and look at these:
http://rudolfkremers.com/q/quake.html (http://rudolfkremers.com/q/quake.html)


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 11, 2008, 04:11:20 PM
no recognition (Except maybe vendetta? not sure though), but yep, plenty nostalgia, and a yearning to make a quake level of my own again (goddamnit no appropriately nostalgic emoticon).


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: William Laub on December 11, 2008, 08:34:32 PM
I didn't see Gaming World (http://www.gamingw.net/forums/) in there.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 11, 2008, 09:07:20 PM
ah! cheers: added :)


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: laserghost on December 18, 2008, 08:33:49 PM
I recalled a couple others:

http://www.kongregate.com/forums
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/community/

Both Flash portals, though. However, Kongregate for one has an emphasis on games in particular, with a lot of quality content. Albino Black Sheep on the other hand has a lot of different stuff, but I do remember a few notable indie games coming out of it in the past.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 18, 2008, 08:58:13 PM
Both Flash portals,
Hmm.  Thanks for the suggestions.  Neither of these forums has a dedicated 2-way  feedback area.  It's sort of due to the configuration of the communities I guess (possibly that, on these sites, the number of players vastly outnumbers the number of developers).  I'll make a third list with flash-portals I guess?


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on December 18, 2008, 11:14:53 PM
added

LÖVE CLUB (http://love2d.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=5) (LÖVE)


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on January 01, 2009, 01:59:46 AM
Added Robosquid (http://robosquid.com/forums/index.php?showforum=16).


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: moshboy on January 01, 2009, 02:45:15 AM
EO Game Development Community (http://eocommunity.co.uk/index.php)?


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: esc on January 01, 2009, 02:54:43 AM
<a href="http://gmc.yoyogames.com/">the Game Maker Community</a> for users of Game Maker ofcourse


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on January 01, 2009, 02:59:09 AM
<a href="http://gmc.yoyogames.com/">the Game Maker Community</a> for users of Game Maker ofcourse
Oh, hah yeah: totally forgot about that.

EO Game Development Community (http://eocommunity.co.uk/index.php)?
The 'community' aspect of that is private.  I guess I'll add it to the second list, though, with a note.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: guillermo on January 03, 2009, 09:01:29 AM
I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned:

The Daily Click (http://create-games.com)

Yeah, I know, it's a mixed bag, you can find really young developers releasing their early (often crappy) attempts but you can also find nice stuff by the more experienced members.

It's focused on Clickteam products (Multimedia Fusion, The Games Factory, Klik & Play), so there's a lot of help in that site if you are having a problem with the above-mentioned.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on January 03, 2009, 09:08:10 AM
added.  thanks.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: ghoulsblade on January 04, 2009, 04:58:57 AM
maybe http://www.indiezen.org/ ?


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on January 04, 2009, 05:06:46 AM
maybe http://www.indiezen.org/ ?

sure: added to the second list.


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: ghoulsblade on January 04, 2009, 02:43:44 PM
http://happypenguin.org/forums/index.php?c=5  happypenguin gamedev subforum

http://www.developia.de/  german hobby gamedev community

http://www.indiegamejam.com/ (you probably know that one already anyway)

http://www.devbump.com/ (digg like system for gamedev news)

http://www.gametrove.net/ (old&dead ?)

http://www.devmaster.net/ (engine/lib lists with forums)

http://www.angelcode.com/ (has subforum on freegamedev net, probably not a separate community, but a bunch of resources)


Title: Re: Online communities of independent game-makers
Post by: increpare on January 04, 2009, 02:56:56 PM
Thanks for those suggestions dude.

http://happypenguin.org/forums/index.php?c=5  happypenguin gamedev subforum
Hadn't thought about that.  Cool.

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http://www.developia.de/  german hobby gamedev community
Hmm; has a pretty interesting structure.

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http://www.indiegamejam.com/ (you probably know that one already anyway)
Yeah.  Looks dead though, so.

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http://www.devbump.com/ (digg like system for gamedev news)
Not really relevant.

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http://www.gametrove.net/ (old&dead ?)
Looks like more of a portal anyway.

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http://www.devmaster.net/ (engine/lib lists with forums)
already on the list.

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http://www.angelcode.com/ (has subforum on freegamedev net, probably not a separate community, but a bunch of resources)
yeah; I can leave that off.