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1  Feedback / Playtesting / Re: Panzer Jude [0.0.2] on: May 07, 2011, 05:11:39 AM
The second I saw your game I imagined the response you would be sending me. Every single thing you've said can be inferred by the game alone. Your choice of having the player defend the lone Jew is typical neo nazi deceit.

However, I don't think you understand what you are doing and hence the comments you make are uninformed germanophile garbage with a huge component of naïveté. You are transmitting in your game much more than what you understand; you are transmitting death, hate and incomprehension.

If I were you I would hope I am not breaking any Dutch laws for making that game. That would be very unfortunate.

Finally, I want to say that you are raping the memory of the Dutch Jews that were deported by the nazis during the German occupation, and making a mockery of the people who died to defend the Netherlands during Hitler's brutal annexation.
2  Feedback / Playtesting / Re: Panzer Jude [0.0.2] on: May 07, 2011, 12:04:28 AM
@ ank: I think it's okey. I'm not an anti-semite, nor is this game going to become. I have spend a lot of time thinking and talking about the theme because for me it's verry important. My goal is to engage people that play games into thinking criticly about games, that means taking risks (in my case). I think a lot of people that make games are playing it to safe (in a lot of ways); I don't want to make games about knights or space aliens (etc), i want to tell something about what i'm dealing with in my head (and i don't think of knights or aliens verry often).

Having said that, there is still the reference to jews and "armor". I think protecting a jew against bullets and rockets is nothing bad. Infact i think a lot of people should have been involved with it during the second world war. Infact even, i think a lot of people should be protecting other members of the world's population from bullets right now.

Still i must say that it's a fine ballance between insulting and refering, but i'm willing to deal with that.

Cool story, bro Cool
3  Developer / Art / Re: show us some of your pixel work on: May 05, 2011, 10:12:10 PM
if games would display it in a non-glorifying way and as an honest artistic expression there is no problem. but games tend to "goofyfy" ww2. being huffy when it comes to this symbol is just an expression of fear that bad memories get lost in caricatures. such symbols are gravestones of memories. maintaining these memories is a concept of the state of germany.

I don't know... I think it's crazy. It's crazy because it's just a symbol. Well, not "just a symbol" in that way, because a symbol always has a greater meaning - hence why they're symbols - but you can also view it as the "logo" or "flag" of something, no? A swastika on the tank says "here comes a german nazi tank". It makes us know the tank is part of the Wehrmacht, the nazi military forces. That's not really related to the Holocaust at all... And just for comparison, I think the American flag is pretty offensive too sometimes, as it - me not being American - immediatelly makes me think of warmongering, hypocrisy, crazy religious people, etc. I think the hammer and sickle in the Soviet flag is also pretty offensive to see, considering the 40 something million people killed by Stalin. In Sweden we have laws against the use of the swastika, but no laws against the use of the hammer and sickle. Why is that? Are jews worth more than others? You either ban all kinds of offensive symbols, or you allow all. You can't just go pick freely, depending on your current mood. Again, just my opinion...

He made a game about a lone jew having to hide from german tanks and he called it "Panzer Jude" (Panzer Jew.) This is insulting to the memory of people who died in the Holocaust, whether you like it or not - they deserve the same as any other group: respect.
It's not about the symbol in itself, but the game he created and some of the comments he's made are awfully offensive - the equivalent of putting a goatse image or worse.
4  Developer / Art / Re: show us some of your pixel work on: May 05, 2011, 10:07:38 PM









I make nazi tanks! To fight ones more this memory. poor jews.

I find your comments (and your game) extremely insulting. Hopefully you are just a misguided kid and not a full blown anti-semite.
5  Feedback / Playtesting / Re: Panzer Jude [0.0.2] on: May 05, 2011, 07:12:55 PM
Panzer Jude? Does that mean "Panzer Jew"? Do you really think that's ok?
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