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[Poor Lazlo]

What the 

I liked this one;

"We as a country are engaging and debating a pertinent issue," he said. "So if a foreign country chooses to cut aid simply because Uganda is debating its destiny, then it is quite outrageous and quite wrong."

The possibility of mis-quotes aside, I really cannot comprehend the kind of reasoning that would lead to that conclusion.

When you are of the opinion that homosexuality deserves the death sentence, that kind of logic makes sense.

This law is shameful.

[C.A. Sinner]

i think killing is wrong

Your avatar says otherwise.

[mcc]

The bill hasn't passed yet, and after there was some international outcry they started talking about moderating the bill, like maybe instead of being put to death for being gay you'll just get a long prison sentence

Thanks for the consideration guys

The other fun thing is that the bill outlaws not only sheltering homosexuals (i.e. learning someone is gay but not reporting it within 24 hours) but also "promoting" homosexuality, so for example as I understand after the bill is passed speaking out against it will be an illegal act in Uganda

There might be some hope, in the last week or so the President of Uganda has reversed himself and started saying he will veto the bill outright. I'm not sure exactly what his powers are in this situation or what he'd do if the bill were swapped out for a "moderate" one. The article I link there describes the president as mostly motivated here by pressure from other states (as I understand the Ugandan government depends significantly on foreign aid and debt relief programs).

[Saint]

When you are of the opinion that homosexuality deserves the death sentence, that kind of logic makes sense.

This law is shameful.

I was more thinking along the lines of "Who do they think the aid is for? the government or the people?" and "Do they consider the nations in question obliged to provide aid to whatever purpose?" ...

I mean I guess if he truly considers this an advancement of democracy I could see why he would not agree, but calling it "outrageous" when faced with the possibility of withdrawn aid seems like biting the hand that feeds you.

But then again, it's all just theory at this point as it is just a request from human-rights groups and to be honest it would probably cause a lot of damage to suffering innocents in the short term. I would personally support a withdrawal of aid, though - to me, it is all about helping them bettering the nation, and a law like this shows a clear dedication to make it worse instead. But then again, I've never had anywhere near the problems most of the population have there, so I guess it's easy for me to say.

[Danmark]

While you guys cry about Ireland's pro-'don't piss religions off' stance, Uganda is trying to kill every Ugandan with HIV and all their homosexuals.

There's nothing like major human rights abuses in one country to take the edge of minor ones in another. I guess?

Failed original posts aside, this is horrible. Let's hope the president has enough power to shoot it down. But it's still atrocious if a law with softer penalties gets passed.

[Petethegoat]

This is why I am against the bill of human rights. While I agree with the majority of the principals outlined in it, the problem is, no one actually bothers to enforce them.

Which is a little bit fucking idiotic.

[Ashkin]

We lose more of our humanity each year.

2010 is looking pretty bleak.

[Petethegoat]

We lose more of our humanity each year.

2010 is looking pretty bleak.

This is more eloquent than my post, and is so, so true.

[Chaotic Heart]

I usually write long-winded posts... but this deserves a simple "What the fuck are they thinking?"

As to the idea that humanity is somehow becoming more barbaric and brutal as we age... I would like to simply point out 200... hell... 100 years ago a law like this would not have garnered even an inkling of the outrage it garners now.

The simple truth is we are improving as a species... just certain parts of the world are improving WAY too slowly.

{Wanders off, still trying to figure out what type of mental process has to go into imagining such a law is a good idea.}

[Kinten]

FUCK

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE WORLD!?

Religion

[Kitoari]

Ugandan Government Wants Genocide

FUCK

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE WORLD!?

Religion

Because every single person who is religious is a nutcase fundamentalist who think gays are the spawn of the devil or something.


(I should really make this animation transparent sometime.)

[Shade Jackrabbit]

Oh what the fuck.

FUCK

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE WORLD!?

Religion

Nice excuse. I see a lot of people like to wave that one around.

[Chaotic Heart]

I tend to think religion is not the problem. Man's inability to take criticism about his chosen religion is.

Most religions really DO teach peace, love, and warm fuzzies. Which its followers promptly forgets the moment someone makes a cartoon about their chosen prophet.

Add to that the fact that most rational followers of the same religion refuse to monitor their own members, and you end up with a group of zealots that do such atrocities all in the name of their god.

Religion, itself, is not completely blameless, though. Most of them still harbor archaic and wrong ideologies and laws based off of ancient idiocies and superstition. But, oh, religion is off limits to any type of ridicule or (GOD FORBID) change.

We put religion in a position where it can never refine itself, or rid itself of the parts that intrinsicly make it wrong. We then, get angry when those wrong facets are pointed out. If religion is flawed, its mostly because we almost have a pathological need to insure it stays that way.

[Zest]

Religion is a tool. IT can be used for good or for ill. Don't blame the tool for how it is used.

In this case, I don't think religion has a huge impact on this- it's just plain old prejudice here, and it's complete horseshit.

[Paul Eres]

FUCK

WHAT IS HAPPENING TO THE WORLD!?

Religion

religion has very little to do with this. they aren't killing gays with aids cause god says so. they're doing it cause like 1/5 of their country has aids and they don't want everyone to get it.