Glaiel-Gamer
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« Reply #465 on: January 13, 2010, 03:59:54 PM » |
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I count 9/20 games this year that are by most definitions "innovative", a couple that are innovative in some category or another, and only about 3-4 that could be considered "polished games in an established genre"
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« Reply #466 on: January 13, 2010, 04:30:49 PM » |
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how to make better igf: no metroidvanias
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« Reply #467 on: January 13, 2010, 04:44:10 PM » |
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What? I don't think theres any nominee this year that I'd call a metroidvania. Even though a few of them contain elements that are common in metroidvanias.
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« Reply #468 on: January 13, 2010, 04:45:40 PM » |
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I think Eva just hates Aquaria, seeing as that's been the only Metroidvania to grace the short list in at least the last 5 years.
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« Reply #469 on: January 13, 2010, 04:47:31 PM » |
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What? I don't think theres any nominee this year that I'd call a metroidvania. Even though a few of them contain elements that are common in metroidvanias.
Christoffer, replying to eva implies that eva writes something worth replying to.
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« Reply #470 on: January 13, 2010, 04:48:00 PM » |
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What? I don't think theres any nominee this year that I'd call a metroidvania. Even though a few of them contain elements that are common in metroidvanias.
therefore is ALREADY better igf so what is whole discussion about?
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« Reply #471 on: January 13, 2010, 04:49:26 PM » |
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I seriously do not get some of the "hate" being thrown around. I'm just happy lots of people take the time to actually make games I enjoy! Humanity is spoiled...
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« Reply #472 on: January 13, 2010, 04:55:08 PM » |
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For me "innovation" is a stupid word, just like "art". Also, IGF is a big wankfest.
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« Reply #473 on: January 13, 2010, 05:50:31 PM » |
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What? I don't think theres any nominee this year that I'd call a metroidvania. Even though a few of them contain elements that are common in metroidvanias.
I think Eva just hates Aquaria, seeing as that's been the only Metroidvania to grace the short list in at least the last 5 years.
metroidvania, platformer, same thing Christoffer, replying to eva implies that eva writes something worth replying to. you sure do too!!
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« Reply #474 on: January 14, 2010, 02:44:55 AM » |
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Also, IGF is a big wankfest.
Sure, it is. That's the whole point. Name one Festival that isn't.
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« Reply #475 on: January 14, 2010, 04:01:22 AM » |
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I agree with what you said before this but an innovative concept could make the game good. They should be judged together as one 'overall' between the two: 'Good' and 'Innovative'. What I meant, or probably should've meant, is that innovation should somehow be promoted. I'm not sure this is really a big an issue here on tig, where people reward and/or appreciate cool new ideas. Maybe just let the neat innovative ideas that somehow isn't as good as other games be noted as "but these ideas were pretty neat, we'd like to see 'em developed". Yeah, that's definitely better. Let's pretend I said that. 
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« Reply #476 on: January 14, 2010, 07:00:39 AM » |
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I agree with what you said before this but an innovative concept could make the game good. They should be judged together as one 'overall' between the two: 'Good' and 'Innovative'. What I meant, or probably should've meant, is that innovation should somehow be promoted. I'm not sure this is really a big an issue here on tig, where people reward and/or appreciate cool new ideas. Maybe just let the neat innovative ideas that somehow isn't as good as other games be noted as "but these ideas were pretty neat, we'd like to see 'em developed". Yeah, that's definitely better. Let's pretend I said that.  Yeah definitely! I think that's what the Nuovo Innovation Award is supposed to do. 
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« Reply #477 on: January 14, 2010, 08:54:56 AM » |
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people who are dissatisfied: cactus (said 'bored', he's kinda seemed depressed recently anyway) I didn't really fully explain myself in my post. I do feel dissatisfied with the finalists in this year's IGF, BUT... I'm not saying I saw a ton of entries that I thought deserved to get nominated that didn't get a nomination. That's the big thing that I feel bad about. There were undoubtedly a lot of good games in there, and many of them got a nomination, but I didn't see many games that got me excited. I feel like the nominees were selected mostly based on production values, possibly because there wasn't much else to go by (afaicr from when I looked through the entrants). Most of the games that would've felt fresh or interesting I had already heard about or played over a year ago  Anyway, I've got high hopes for 2010. I feel like it will be the best year in quite a while 
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« Reply #478 on: January 14, 2010, 08:57:38 AM » |
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Perhaps I should go ahead and organize the "Melly's Always Right Awards".
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« Reply #479 on: January 14, 2010, 09:00:17 AM » |
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Perhaps I should go ahead and organize the "Melly's Always Right Awards".
Yus.
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