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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2010, 01:31:54 PM »

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oh noe how awful this will make teh orgiinal games suk forevar lets bitch about it

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I don't think there's really anything to say about the matter. The game isn't out yet, so there's no way of knowing if it's good or bad.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2010, 01:37:26 PM »

I was on the verge of turning into Angry Internet Man when I heard about this, but then I remembered that actually every single X-com game since the first, incrediblawesome one have been various shades of pants (Apocalypse was OK, though), so it's not like they're taking a poo on something that isn't already covered in dung anyway.  Though, obviously I would like it more if they actually dug down through the crap to find the shiny golden nugget that was once there, then stick it back on top and maybe encrust it with beautiful current-gen jewels.  Maybe they will.

It seems strange that you apparently play an 'FBI Agent', though.  Given that its an X-com game called 'XCOM', wouldn't it make more sense for you to be, I dunno, an X-com agent?

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« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2010, 01:45:26 PM »

Where did you read the FBI agent thing? If that's the case, then I bet you're an FBI agent that gets recruited to be part of the X-Com team, Men in Black style.
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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2010, 02:08:20 PM »

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I don't think there's really anything to say about the matter. The game isn't out yet, so there's no way of knowing if it's good or bad.
Yeah, I know "it's even out yet how can you say anything about it?" and all that.

Well, I dunno, it's a classic strategy RPG being remade as an FPS by the people who made Bioshock 2. To think it won't be at least dumbed down to "reach a wider audience" is unrealistic.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2010, 02:41:18 PM »

So what's wrong with that, again? How exactly does that "shit all over" something?

I mean when I check my X-COM disc I don't see any brown splotches appearing. Looks like good ol' UFO Defense to me.
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« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2010, 02:44:41 PM »

"Chess, the classic 15th century turn-based strategy game pitting sixteen white pieces against sixteen black pieces, is set to make a comeback as a first-person shooter, courtesy of the 2K studios behind BioShock 2.

The game, which is actually called CHESS, is in development for the Xbox 360 and PC at 2K Australia and 2K Marin, and makes substantial changes to the original series, combining evaluation of positions and planning elements not with overhead, turn-based strategy sections, but with first-person shooter action."  Gentleman
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« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2010, 02:47:01 PM »

@chrknudsen: Good ol' RPS: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/04/14/enemy-known-xcoms-baaaaaaaaaack/#more-28445

Yeah, I expect you're right, though I always thought of X-com as recruiting more from military organizations (or, given the fact that none of your rookies could ever hit a barn door, the local Alcoholic Anonymous group).
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« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2010, 02:56:24 PM »

That car on the screenshot looks very 50's. Could the game take place in that period? And is the person being destroyed/evaporated wearing an army uniform?
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« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2010, 04:00:25 PM »

I mean when I check my X-COM disc I don't see any brown splotches appearing. Looks like good ol' UFO Defense to me.
I wasn't requesting a carbon copy of the original. I'd love to see a game that's "up to modern standards" and puts a new spin on an old series but doesn't follow the current trend of putting "accessibility" above all else and making the depth of the gameplay suffer for it.

To me, games like Deus Ex 2, Oblivion, Fallout 3 etc. felt like steps backward rather than forward, and from what little information exists, this is exactly the sort of thing we're dealing with here.
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« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2010, 04:25:37 PM »

But why is that a step backwards? Who gave you the right to determine what is "correct" in a series? If you made one of the X-COM games please tell me because then, yeah, you might have something to complain about.

I'm just saying that your old X-COM games are still fine, and some new entry won't ruin it. Just block it out if you really need to that badly. It's not gonna destroy the series. It's just making it different. There's nothing wrong with that. I just don't get this sense of entitlement.
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« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2010, 04:40:55 PM »

I'm hoping this winds up being good!

Honestly, if it's bad, it isn't like it retroactively ruins earlier ones. So there is nothing to lose and EVERYTHING TO GAIN.
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« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2010, 07:11:34 PM »

Yeah, I think that's what Shade was getting at earlier.

I've personally never played X-COM. Every time I try to get into it I get all confused and don't know what to do. I would probably love it but the lack of any sort of tutorial makes me all sorts of confused.
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« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2010, 07:31:10 PM »

Hey, Enforcer was an ok arcade-type game, you just have to not care about the franchise roots so much Wink.

My only hope, whatever it turns out to be, still retains the base/research/air defense in some capacity and is coded to not give a damn about your feelings and stomp you heartily into the ground if you screw up. Cry
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« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2010, 10:27:47 PM »

Maybe they'll keep the whole Geoscape thing but have a team based tactical fps sort of gameplay replacing the isometric view. I think I'd like that.
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« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2010, 10:58:50 PM »

I don't like how people compare this situation to the Fallout -> Fallout 3 situation. Fallout was a game much more suited for first person gameplay. It told the story of one person, you. The setting and the theme were more important than the gameplay, really. It would have been cool to see an isometric tactical RPG Fallout released in this decade but I felt that Fallout 3 carried the torch quite well... all 3 Fallout games remain some of my favourites of all time.

X-Com on the other hand, is about managing squads of expendable dudes all over the world, managing bases and searching for and taking out enemy UFOs... I really don't see how that would translate to a first-person perspective! I don't trust AI teammates to be clever enough to operate in real-time, and I can't see the whole situation from a single on-foot perspective..

Oh how I wish people still made tactics games  Sad
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