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« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2010, 05:46:08 PM » |
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They only got me because of my damned addons. Appearently not everyone is carrying adblock, greasemonkey w/ several scripts, Imacros, quickfox notes, FoxyProxy, ImTranslator, Java, ReloadEvery, ReframeIt, and a file converter...but they should.
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« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2010, 05:47:17 PM » |
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And I think I win with 19.55 bits of information. I got a lotta crap.
Same as me! Although I was unique among 1,011,644 tested, apparently. Hah! Beating you both! 19.95. |
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« Reply #22 on: May 20, 2010, 10:02:49 PM » |
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And I think I win with 19.55 bits of information. I got a lotta crap.
Same as me! Although I was unique among 1,011,644 tested, apparently. Hah! Beating you both! 19.95. Browser Plugin Details
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1012892 I think 19.95 is the max, as I have more than that in my addons group alone. |
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« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2010, 03:33:19 AM » |
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Mine says I have 19.95 bits of identifying information, and I'm one in 1,014,979. Strangely, it only managed to detect the resolution of one of my screens.
But what are the bits of information? surely less identifying bits would be better, or have I fundamentally misunderstood it.
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« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2010, 03:58:24 AM » |
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Just wanted to add that I agree with Corpus. This is something extremely unrealistic to expect of people. many peple have secret lives or hobbies that don't really harm anyone but could cause them great trouble if these were found out. Or are you saying that a gay man cannot talk with other gays through the internet because he lives somewhere deep in redneck country?
I feel that you may have missed TLB's point. The fact that it's possible to identify you through the internet doesn't put you in danger of getting bashed by rednecks if you're posting about being gay online, but it does mean that it would be advisable to not perform actual crimes through the internet as you could be punished. Obviously you wouldn't want to be tracked by the metaphorical rednecks on the metaphorical gay chatroom, but as that's unlikely to happen at best the choice of analogy was misleading. You "wouldn't want to be tracked" as part of a child porn/blackcap hacking/insert misc stereotypical netcrime here ring a little (lot) more seriously than you'd not want to be tracked on a chatroom that people around you wouldn't approve of. I just feel that you and Corpus both interpreted his (admittedly fairly contextually sensitive and interpretive) statement incorrectly, but it could be that I've done that. I have 19.95(+? looks like it might be the maximum) bits of info on me and am unique. hmn. |
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« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2010, 04:13:11 AM » |
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I would strongly recommend you to read 1984, if you haven't already. The right to privacy is not about being able to hide crimes. |
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« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2010, 04:25:32 AM » |
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No, obviously, but you have to quite a bit of work to find out anything important about someone somewhere just based on how they use the internet. It gets fucked up when you have organisations actually collecting data on people, but the fact that you leave a footprint shouldn't come as a shock nor should it be seen as an invasion of privacy. Social networking could easily be interpreted as waiving that "right" quite often  (see albums of images full of someone's life sometimes publicly available, addresses, schools, and willingness to "add" as many people as possible) (this isn't to be considered entirely seriously) 1984 is amazing by the way, it's interesting you bring it up. |
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« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2010, 04:37:35 AM » |
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There is a common attitude that says: "the only reason you would want privacy is to hide something bad/criminal" 1984 shows where you can end up with such an attitude. If you don't think like that, I simply misunderstood what you were trying to say. My bad  |
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« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2010, 04:46:49 AM » |
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You signature just made me want to hug you by the way (only thing I'm dubious about it teetotaling  ), and no, I don't think like that. My point was that it's valid advice to suggest not doing something you wouldn't want to be tracked doing when using a medium for doing the something that you can be tracked through oh god that sentence is horrible, in any case it got horribly tangled because I tangled everything into a terrible mess of a statement. I'm going to go to sleep now and see if this is still here in the morning; I'm miscommunicating everything and I'll just end up saying something I don't agree with. It wasn't your bad you didn't understand, it was mine. (  ) |
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« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2010, 04:49:23 AM » |
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I want privacy when I'm in private. I personally don't expect privacy when I'm out in the public. Being on the internet is being out in the public, as far as I'm concerned, even though you most of the time access it from the privacy of your home.
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« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2010, 04:59:31 AM » |
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Well, I have 19.95+ in both addons and fonts, plus 30 elsewhere. Looks like I'll be pretty unique for a while  In fact both my addons sections and font sections are unique on their own. |
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« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2010, 05:39:41 AM » |
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So... Websites know if I have comic sans installed? How embarrassing...  |
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« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2010, 06:43:17 AM » |
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I'm unique among ~4500. I noticed that the user agent string was the most identifying item for me, so I anonymised it with an about:config override. Then I was unique among ~1 090 000... So scrubbing your identifiable strings makes you MORE unique (logical when you think about it). Damned if you do, damned if you don't, eh? So if you want to be anonymous you actually need to find the most common ID:s and override yours with them.
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\\\"There\\\'s a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person,\\\" says Warren Spector, creator of Thief and Deus Ex. --IGN<br />My compilation of game engines for indies
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« Reply #35 on: May 21, 2010, 06:55:36 AM » |
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unique among 1,016,455 tested so far And I think I win with 19.55 bits of information. I got a lotta crap.
Same as me! Although I was unique among 1,011,644 tested, apparently. Hah! Beating you both! 19.95. Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 19.96 bits of identifying information. Hah! I win! |
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« Reply #36 on: May 21, 2010, 11:22:32 AM » |
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They only got my user agent and the HTTP accept headers... And somehow I'm the only one with the latest Firefox and JavaScript + cookies disallowed in 340,000 people? Really? What the hell are the rest doing?? Using Internet Explorer 6, probably.
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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2010, 01:47:06 PM » |
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They only got my user agent and the HTTP accept headers... And somehow I'm the only one with the latest Firefox and JavaScript + cookies disallowed in 340,000 people? Really? What the hell are the rest doing?? Using Internet Explorer 6, probably.
Actually, I believe in that catgory there are 3, including you, since my ratio there is 1019669 to 1. |
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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2010, 02:15:04 PM » |
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1:3k, 11.something b/o info with javascript disabled unique, 19.96 with jscript enabled. Currently, we estimate that your browser has a fingerprint that conveys at least 19.96 bits of identifying information. Hah! I win! we're tied |
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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2010, 02:24:22 PM » |
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You actually have far more than 19.96, that's just its current cap.
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