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« on: June 09, 2010, 03:57:57 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2010, 04:10:46 PM »

Roll Eyes Why does gender matter? Seriously, it doesn't really matter what demographics are making videogames, and I don't think people making articles about how a subculture needs women is going to help any perceived issues here either.

Next up: "DIY clothesmaking needs more men!"
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« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2010, 04:18:24 PM »

Indie games are stacked to the brim with women.  It's just that people don't want to recognize stuff like Farmville as indie games.  Every woman I know with an iPhone has it filled with word game apps or somesuch.

Remember, kids: It's not a video game if it's not hardcore, apparently.
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« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2010, 04:19:56 PM »

If women feel like they aren't welcome because they are women, there is a problem.

I don't really think that is the case here on tigs, though.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2010, 04:21:16 PM »

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Remember, kids: It's not a video game if it's not hardcore, apparently.
And it's not hardcore if it's not a mainstream, "AAA", adult-themed game.
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2010, 04:21:46 PM »

Indie games are stacked to the brim with women.  It's just that people don't want to recognize stuff like Farmville as indie games.  Every woman I know with an iPhone has it filled with word game apps or somesuch.

Remember, kids: It's not a video game if it's not hardcore, apparently.
What? The article was about female /developers/.
The link in the first comment (to a similar article on The Escapist) notes that female players make up 40% of the market but only 10% of developers.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2010, 04:39:21 PM »

I don't know why people care, if women wanted to play or make games then they will. How is  this a problem?

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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2010, 05:00:30 PM »

@Inane
I know, I know.  I just decided to commandeer this thread to air my grievances over the whole "WOMEN DON'T PLAY VIDEO GAMES WWAAAAAH" issue. Tongue

Anyway, what the fuck is with the guy (gal?) writing this?  All he (she?) really says is "Hey indie game communities you guys are totally sexist so stop doing that!" when most of the indie game communities I've seen treat women quite well.  It's not a problem of the community whipping out their cocks every time a women passes by.  The issue is that assholes like this one assume it is and tell everyone that.

And saying that Super Columbine Massacre RPG had the same problems as Hey Baby is irritating.  I actually thought that SCMRPG's art looked quite good, whereas Hey Baby is this janky, 3D mess that looks juust good enough that it can communicate its ideas in an easily understandable fashion.  If that's not enough for most people, I can understand.

Basically, this writer is making up issues.  So fuck him/her.
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« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2010, 05:40:38 PM »

The writer is female.

Why the aggression?
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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2010, 05:48:17 PM »

The fact that somebody saying little more than "there should be more female indie game developers" gets a big fuck you on these forums* seems to indicate there's a problem.

* by one guy, but still
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« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2010, 06:18:27 PM »

It's just that people don't want to recognize stuff like Farmville as indie games.

Huh?
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« Reply #11 on: June 09, 2010, 06:22:58 PM »

The fact that somebody saying little more than "there should be more female indie game developers" gets a big fuck you on these forums* seems to indicate there's a problem.

* by one guy, but still
That isn't why I said "fuck him/her."  I said that because what he or she wrote is bullshit.  I am all for more female developers in the indie game community.  In fact, everyone here is.  I was just criticizing the writer.

It's just that people don't want to recognize stuff like Farmville as indie games.

Huh?
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Farmville doesn't have a publisher.  This means that it is an indie game.  It's not like an indie game has to be made by one dude in his basement for free.
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« Reply #12 on: June 09, 2010, 06:23:20 PM »

some random blog by some random author.

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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2010, 06:37:53 PM »

Farmville doesn't have a publisher.  This means that it is an indie game.  It's not like an indie game has to be made by one dude in his basement for free.
By that logic, all of Valve's games are indie.

Games developed by huge companies with boatloads of money are generally not considered indie, which seems fair to me. Even if you can argue that they're technically indie, they don't act like indie developers in the ways that matter.
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2010, 07:06:23 PM »

not after, BEFORE
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