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Current build/development stage: Milestone Two Build.Balding's Quest: the Quest of Guy BaldingFor an introduction to the project, along with the ground rules, click here. Level Design:It seemed like it might be necessary to organize all of our level design stuff into one place. The Milestone 2 thread was getting a bit big, anyway. We'll keep that thread alive for stuff pertaining to the completion of the M2 goals, but anything else that pertains to the design of the levels (including graphics and maps) goes here. What I'm going to do is start breaking things down by level. I'll take all the ideas (at least the ones that make the most sense) from the M2 thread and start filing them away based on what I think is the most appropriate place for them. Then the community can fight about what's right and what's not, what should be added or taken away, etc. Hopefully by the end of this thread we'll have pared things down nicely. Without Arne it's going to be kind of an experiment in crowd-sourcing level design, but I see no reason why it shouldn't work! I see there as being 3 types of people who will contribute in a big way to this part of the game creation. Keep in mind you may fall into all three of these categories. Arne definitely fell into all three, which is why we love him so much, but even if you do just one thing, you will be invaluable. Idea People: It's easy! Come up with ideas (enemies, objects, traps, mechanics, etc.), share your opinions. Add, take away, massage, tweak, opinionate. We need as many of these as possible! Artists: Arne seems busy as hell, but there's no reason why we should wait for him. Let's get some pixel artists going at some of these levels. What we could use are mockups like the ones Arne made and also objects that could go in levels (statues, platforms, etc.). There are plenty of style references for you to work from! Follow them as close as you can. Designers: We need people who can actually put levels together, whether on graph paper or in MS Paint or just in text. But coming up with fun levels that make the most of the engine and all its (intentional) limitations is crucial to making this game work. How's that sound? Alright, here's what we've got going so far: // Note! None of your level designs have to adhere to this map. The final map will be based on the levels we design and not the other way around. This is just a guideline. Sorry for any confusion.   A1: Forest & Temple GateGraphics: a gate into the temple Enemies: dragonfly, gargoyle Traps: ... Items: ... Mechanics: ... A2: Forest  Graphics: trees, branches, vines Enemies: spiders, snakes,  Traps: quicksand Items: ... Mechanics: swinging on vines (ala Pitfall) A3: Forest and House Lawn Graphics: ... Enemies: dog Traps: ... Items: ... Mechanics: ... A4: House Graphics: ... Enemies: cats, angry housemates Traps: flying toast Items: ... Mechanics: ... A5: BarnGraphics: ... Enemies: ... Traps: buzzsaws, horse crap! Items: ... Mechanics: ... A6: FactoryGraphics: ... Enemies: ... Traps: pistons, spinning cogs, flame spurts Items: ... Mechanics: darkness / light switches B1: Temple  Graphics: ruins, statues Enemies: ... Traps: arrow trap, spikes, floor plates Items: ... Mechanics: fake walls B3: Cellar Graphics: ... Enemies: ... Traps: lasers, zappy traps Items: ... Mechanics: ... B5: Laboratory  Graphics: beakers, bubbly liquids Enemies: mutants Traps: ... Items: ... Mechanics: ... B6: Processing  Graphics: ... Enemies: ... Traps: ... Items: ... Mechanics: ... C1: IceGraphics: falling snowflakes Enemies: yeti Traps: ... Items: ... Mechanics: slippery surfaces C3a: The Dungeon C3b: Sewers Graphics: ... Enemies: slimes, rats Traps: steam leaks Items: ... Mechanics: swimming C6: Storage  Graphics: ... Enemies: robots Traps: ... Items: ... Mechanics: moving platforms D3: Caves  Graphics: ... Enemies: ... Traps: rolling boulders, falling rocks, stalactites Items: ... Mechanics: ... E1: BossGraphics: ... Enemies: ... Traps: ... Items: ... Mechanics: ... E3: Lava Graphics: ... Enemies: ... Traps: crumbling rocks, lava! Items: ... Mechanics: ... E5: AlienGraphics: ... Enemies: aliens, saucers Traps: ... Items: jetpack Mechanics: reversing gravity E6: Bonus Levels   Graphics: ... Enemies: ... Traps: ... Items: ... Mechanics: ... Other Ideas- Timed events, "hurry up!" type events and enemies
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Derek
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2007, 02:19:37 AM » |
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By the way, "The Dungeon" could totally fit in somewhere as one of the Sewer levels (or wherever else it kinda makes sense).
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Caio
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2007, 09:15:34 AM » |
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A5: Barn
Graphics: ...
Enemies: ...
Traps: buzzsaws, horse crap!
Items: ...
Mechanics: ... Oh my god you did. :D I'll try to sketch something. The tiles are 8x8, right? How many tiles per screen? |
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Bezzy
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2007, 09:48:44 AM » |
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A5: Barn
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Traps: buzzsaws, horse crap!
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Mechanics: ... Oh my god you did. :D I'll try to sketch something. The tiles are 8x8, right? How many tiles per screen? Surely you should be asking "How many shits per pixel?". |
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Caio
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2007, 10:02:50 AM » |
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Oh, I already know the answer for that.
How big is the shit we're talking about?
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2007, 10:08:12 AM » |
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somewhere there needs to be giant, blinking IBM mainframes and spinning tape drive reels. Kinda like the Hatch in Lost.
In fact, just recreate the Hatch! (giant magnets, a countdown timer, blast doors that can be rigged, a secret underground passageway, small 70's living quarters)
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Caio
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2007, 02:24:53 PM » |
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somewhere there needs to be giant, blinking IBM mainframes and spinning tape drive reels. Kinda like the Hatch in Lost.
In fact, just recreate the Hatch! (giant magnets, a countdown timer, blast doors that can be rigged, a secret underground passageway, small 70's living quarters)
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2007, 07:39:40 PM » |
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few Ideas
A1: Forest & Temple Gate
Graphics: fairy, firefly, pixie dust (atmosphere), mushrooms
Enemies: scorpion, club wielding guy (natives), mushroom head man, big feet furballs, giant caterpillar
Traps: fire/steam, vine net trap
Items: ...
Mechanics: torches, shaky bridge w/ loose boards (?)
(Not sure if all of these would fit in one area though.)
A5: Barn
need some chickens!
A6: Factory
Graphics: ...
Enemies: wrench man, electric sparks, blow torch man, supervisor man
Traps: spinning drill bit (pops up out of ground)
Items: ...
Mechanics: steam pipe, conveyor belt w/ crates falling off and breaking
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2007, 07:55:30 PM » |
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More Ideas:
A3: Forest and House Lawn
Graphics: ...
Enemies: dog, lawnmower, cannibal flower
Traps: pollen, anthill, doggy doodoo,
Items: ...
Mechanics: periodic weather changes(?) (like, when it rains, the dog goes to his doghouse, but [giant] worms come out.)
A4: House
Graphics: ...
Enemies: cats, angry housemates, vacuum cleaner
Traps: flying toast, chandelier?, food (makes you fat)
Items: ...
Mechanics: ...
C1: Ice
Graphics: falling snowflakes
Enemies: yeti, coyote/wolf
Traps: fishing holes, falling icicles
Items: ...
Mechanics: slippery surfaces
D3: Caves
Graphics: ...
Enemies: stone golems
Traps: rolling boulders, falling rocks, stalactites
Items: ...
Mechanics: "earthquake" switches that open/close passages
Big questionmark?
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« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2007, 02:55:02 AM » |
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C1: Ice
Graphics: falling snowflakes
Enemies: yeti, coyote/wolf
Traps: fishing holes, falling icicles
Items: ...
Mechanics: slippery surfaces
C1: IceGraphics: falling snowflakes Enemies: yeti, coyote/wolf Traps: fishing holes, falling icicles Items: ... Mechanics: slippery surfaces, defeat wolves by getting them to charge at you, and then skid into spikes, rocks... so they have a low acceleration and high top speed as they scramble to attack you. |
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Xion
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« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2007, 10:06:45 PM » |
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Ehhhh...maybe some ideas for the dog on the lawn level?  Wasn't sure which was best. Now that I look at 'em they almost look cavestory-ish. Kinda huge too, compared to Baldy. (Wasn't sure whether to put this here or in Milestone 2. I mean, this really wouldn't be much a part of the Milestone 2 reqs., would it?) Are the BGs for all levels gonna be just black/a single color? I mean, aside from those grey details. Blue skies? |
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« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2007, 10:04:23 AM » |
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Hey guys,
I've been keeping an eye on your projects for a while now, and I'm quite impressed. I would like to help out by designing some levels, and maybe some of their graphics as well.
I'm not really picky, but the factory, temple, lava, and ice levels seem interesting, so maybe I can help you out on those?
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Derek
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« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2007, 10:11:34 AM » |
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Ehhhh...maybe some ideas for the dog on the lawn level? Wasn't sure which was best. Now that I look at 'em they almost look cavestory-ish. Kinda huge too, compared to Baldy. (Wasn't sure whether to put this here or in Milestone 2. I mean, this really wouldn't be much a part of the Milestone 2 reqs., would it?) Are the BGs for all levels gonna be just black/a single color? I mean, aside from those grey details. Blue skies? Awesome dog! I like the one in the doghouse. The mean one is probably good as an enemy, though. Blue skies are great, btw. I don't think there's any problem with using different colored bg's, as long as it fits the style of the game. Hey guys,
I've been keeping an eye on your projects for a while now, and I'm quite impressed. I would like to help out by designing some levels, and maybe some of their graphics as well.
I'm not really picky, but the factory, temple, lava, and ice levels seem interesting, so maybe I can help you out on those?
You can help out on anything! I was talking with Brandon, and nothing is set in stone... we can even add other levels as we see fit, I think (like "The Dungeon"). The idea right now is just to brainstorm. I've been working on The Dungeon a _wee_ bit myself, during my breaks. Will debut that in the M2 thread, soon, I think. |
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Derek
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« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2007, 10:13:01 AM » |
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A4: House
Graphics: ...
Enemies: cats, angry housemates, vacuum cleaner
Traps: flying toast, chandelier?, food (makes you fat)
Items: ...
Mechanics: ... I like the idea of having to eat a bunch of food to get fat and somehow using that to get past an area. Like maybe to break through a weak floor? That'd be awesome. :D |
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« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2007, 11:43:45 AM » |
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A4: House
Graphics: ...
Enemies: cats, angry housemates, vacuum cleaner
Traps: flying toast, chandelier?, food (makes you fat)
Items: ...
Mechanics: ...
I like the idea of having to eat a bunch of food to get fat and somehow using that to get past an area. Like maybe to break through a weak floor? That'd be awesome. :D Maybe he should get soo fat that he's basically spherical, and then the player can control him by rolling him around. He has newfound crushing and breaking powers, but then there's a timer counting down, and if he doesn't get to the bathroom by the end of it, he dies! (We don't see him while in the bathroom -- he just emerges and he's normal size again.) |
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