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« Reply #1710 on: January 23, 2011, 01:44:04 PM »

Oscar Wilde was an artfag. Wink
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« Reply #1711 on: January 23, 2011, 01:46:14 PM »

But but but...

Quote from: icy
Nietzsche, who was an expert on women, who knew all there was to know about them -- all that a man needs to know, at any rate

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Icy certainly cares about other people, he's involved in "the struggle between men to determine who will shape the future."

But he's interested in influencing the masses indirectly, by influencing the 2nd tier elite, who'll then go out and promulgate and support his ideas, until they filter down to the subhumans. That's what the huge Schopenhauer dump in his last essay was about. Apparently. Also! The elite have to share his tastes.

But if you think good moderation in the context of a discussion means banning people for such serious offenses as disagreeing with you, you deserve to get berated by icycalm... which is the glorious fate of all of his lapdogs.

As a berated and banned forum poster I can confirm that this fate is indeed glorious.
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« Reply #1712 on: January 23, 2011, 01:47:34 PM »

Oscar Wilde was an artfag. Wink
An artfag who was also a smartass!
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« Reply #1713 on: January 23, 2011, 01:55:22 PM »

But he's interested in influencing the masses indirectly, by influencing the 2nd tier elite, who'll then go out and promulgate and support his ideas, until they filter down to the subhumans. That's what the huge Schopenhauer dump in his last essay was about. Apparently. Also! The elite have to share his tastes.
You do realize how batshit insane all of this sounds, right?

Also, about sharing tastes. What if you share his tastes but don't agree with his views?
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« Reply #1714 on: January 23, 2011, 01:57:52 PM »

Why does AshfordPride seem like a nice guy all of a sudden?  WTF

Because I'm not talking about video games to someone like P Diddy. 
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« Reply #1715 on: January 23, 2011, 01:58:30 PM »

What's funny about Rohrer games is that their main focus wasn't message in the first place. Message was just a tools to explore how to express things solely with mechanics.



their main focus wasn't message in the first place
to explore how to express things solely with mechanics.



focus wasn't message
how to express things solely with mechanics.



message
how to express things
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« Reply #1716 on: January 23, 2011, 02:02:21 PM »

content is not container moi Tongue
It was about HOW rather than WHAT
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« Reply #1717 on: January 23, 2011, 02:04:16 PM »

You do realize how batshit insane all of this sounds, right?

No, I don't. It isn't Icy's idea anyway. It's Schopenhauer's. (My interpretation of Icy's earlier explanation, anyway.)

Also, about sharing tastes. What if you share his tastes but don't agree with his views?

Can you separate the two? They are connected... they may be one and the same.

He likes complexity, and he dislikes gayness. Those are tastes.

But you can reformulate them into: Complexity is good. Gayness is bad. These seem to be views.

So... yeah.
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« Reply #1718 on: January 23, 2011, 02:07:18 PM »



He likes complexity, and he dislikes gayness.
Yet he likes Korn?
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« Reply #1719 on: January 23, 2011, 02:08:59 PM »

But he's interested in influencing the masses indirectly, by influencing the 2nd tier elite, who'll then go out and promulgate and support his ideas, until they filter down to the subhumans. That's what the huge Schopenhauer dump in his last essay was about. Apparently. Also! The elite have to share his tastes.

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« Reply #1720 on: January 23, 2011, 02:11:52 PM »

HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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« Reply #1721 on: January 23, 2011, 02:14:14 PM »

HEYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

It's funny because icycalm has repeatedly identified himself as a fascist and supported fascis-WHOOOOOPS HE DOESNT

But he's totally a Hitler because Hitler banned the Jews from Germany when they disagreed on if they secretly started World War I like how icycalm bans people from his forum when they disagree with the things he has to say.  PLEASE EXCUSE ME AS ANYTHING WORTH READING IS SANDWICHED BETWEEN THE BIZARRE RAMBLINGS OF GILBERT OR HIS SO PHANNY JOKES.  ICYQUALM?  ICYQUALM?  OH SHIT THATS SOME FUNNY ASS SHIT. 

LOL GILBERT YOURE SO FUNNY NEVER STOP SLINGIN' THAT SHIT
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« Reply #1722 on: January 23, 2011, 02:14:28 PM »

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« Reply #1723 on: January 23, 2011, 02:15:13 PM »

Icy has mentioned a 'final solution' too a couple of times. Some time ago he also expressed regret at the fact that his then-recent writing would be interpreted as crazy and fascist (or something close)... Guess he doesn't give a fuck about that any more!
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« Reply #1724 on: January 23, 2011, 02:17:54 PM »

I think popularity is the wrong word. What he craves is attention.

If his goal was to educate, he'd obviously not pepper his essays with ad hominems and straw men. If his goal was the create, he'd be jumping on every chance to corroborate and make his dream game. If his goal was to be popular, he'd write essays playing up games he likes, rather than picking popular games and nitpicking.

He does what he does because it gets him 100 page threads on TIGSource. That's why he googles his name daily, just salivating at the thought that somebody else is talking about him. He doesn't care if it's good or bad, he's just desperate to see SOMEBODY is discussing him.

Now, it's entirely possible he's a tortured artist with brilliant thoughts way ahead of his time fighting desperately against a tide of ignorance while coping with an antisocial disorder... but William of Ockham would probably remind you that explanation requires entirely too many assumptions to be worthwhile. The most simplistic solution is he's just attention starved and he's found an easy outlet by writing rambling, insulting essays.

That's not to say any one thing he's stated is right or wrong, but if it IS right it's certainly not because it came from his lips.
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