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[cynicalsandel]

Also, I think Scott Pilgrim is a bad example in this case.

A much better example would be the Capcom megaman games which even simulated sprite limits, lol. I did mention that didn't I? (can't scroll and find it, already spent more time than I can afford here)

While I agree with you in a way on this, especially since Capcom has the money to put into better resources, I hate when people apply this to indie developers.

My main isssue is that indie developers don't usually have the backing that Capcom does, and it doesn't seem like a cost effective idea to use super high quality art in an indie game. Especially teams of one or two people. A lot of indie games are huge risks on individuals (rather than the risk to large companies with mainstream games), and spending 3 years on a game with amazing art could be catastrophic (not finishing, wasting 2 more years on an unsuccessful game, etc.) compared to 1 year development with some decent pixel art.

The time is just an approximation though, but I think you get the idea.

It's kind of funny that I've actually read this whole topic. A little pathetic too.

[C.A. Sinner]

Which is precisely why I only refer to you mockingly rather than respond to what you say.

I'm not asking you to respond to what I say at all, my posts aren't some pathetic plea to be taken "seriously" or whatever. I'll just continue to throw my childish ad hominem insults at you whenever you post here. Nutjobs like you are impossible to argue with anyway. I might as well try telling this guy that religion is bullshit. Why bother?

Just the fact that you can write something like this

You might find this hard to imagine but the fact that there is money at stake makes playing them at an arcade more fun. This is really difficult to relate to for a certain class of "humanity", shall we say for now.

unflinchingly makes none of your arguments worth considering because they're all justifications for your batshit crazy belief system.

Oh and if you really are a True American War Hero (or whatever other country you come from), congrats on being a murderer, fuckface.

[eva]

also seiklus > knytt
cos it has actual content

What do you mean? The bulk of content in both games is the level design.

knytt is a mechanical gam with repetitive tiles vs seiklus where it's always unique and also the world design is a lot more organic and memorable. i'll just say that seiklus has "substance"

i dont really care platforming wise theyr both boring in that aspect

[substance]

I'm not asking you to respond to what I say at all, my posts aren't some pathetic plea to be taken "seriously" or whatever.

Don't worry I never mistook them as such.

I'll just continue to throw my childish ad hominem insults at you whatever you post here.

And I'm the troll, right guys?

Nutjobs like you are impossible to argue with anyway. I might as well try telling this guy that religion is bullshit. Why bother?

I'm not a nutjob, you clearly are, you obsessed freak. Furthermore, it is impossible to defeat me in an argument, in your case. For the humans on this forum though, well, they stand a good chance if I'm tired or something.

Just the fact that you can write something like this (segment of my awesome post)
unflinchingly alone makes none of your arguments worth considering because they're all justifications for your batshit crazy belief system.

I was smiling while writing that. If you can't bear through my style it's your own loss.

Oh and if you really are a True American War Hero (or whatever other country you come from), congrats on being a murderer, fuckface.

Thanks coward! Enjoy your armchair.

[eva]

both of you are retarded stop winking and wanking at each other

[Superb Joe]

I don't know why you have to keep calling each other faggots. Aside from it being an offensive word it's very obvious that you're all, well, you know.

[substance]

Dude can you read? I never called him a faggot, though I'm open to the possibility.

both of you are retarded stop winking and wanking at each other

[eva]

no need to be disapoint

[eva]

no need to diss a point either. which both of u are basically doin LOL

[C.A. Sinner]

I was smiling while writing that. If you can't bear through my style it's your own loss.

Y'know, you'll have to forgive me here. This thread is about someone who calls people "subhumans" for not playing the right video games, it can be a bit hard to detect sarcasm in a situation like this. And yes I think that's insane and if you agree with it, you probably are as well.

Thanks coward! Enjoy your armchair.

I'm enjoying my armchair just fine, thank you. And I have no problem with being called a "coward" (besides, isn't hiding behind internets anonymity a bit cowardly as well?). It's you who has the compulsion to assert your "manliness" (lolololololololol), you fucking caveman. You're probably sexually insecure as well. Been having fun under the shower with your army buddies?

[eva]

kool ur callin him gay. what does this say about u

[C.A. Sinner]

I called him sexually insecure. He could be bisexual as well. And I didn't mean it as an insult, I have no problem with homosexuality.

[Superb Joe]

Dude can you read? I never called him a faggot, though I'm open to the possibility.

you didn't call him a faggot, but you used the word faggot

also it's 2011 and you repeatedly use image macros, not only are you not nearly as smart as you think you are, you're not smart at all. you're a big stupid poopy head.

[Zaphos]

While I agree with you in a way on this, especially since Capcom has the money to put into better resources, I hate when people apply this to indie developers.

This is exactly the point though -- if indies are held to a lower critical standard, that standard becomes accepted more generally and Capcom can do it as well.  And if people accept the cheaper-to-produce stuff as equal, that's what the market will give them.

That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with trying to find more efficient methods for game development.  If you can create something people love using a playful and easy art style, that's great.  Just please don't ask critics to give you a pass because of a label you've given yourself.

[Paul Eres]

perhaps this thread's greatest achievement, among its many achievements, is the rebirth of super joe as superb joe

also, earlier i gave sinclair advice to ignore guitar_mobster's trolling, but the same thing can also work in reverse, breadcultist: you don't have to reply to sinclair either, you know. if a post is devoid of serious content, you can just as easily treat it as if that post does not exist. it'd clutter up the thread less to have more posts about genre, games, etc. and less about people elaborating on the character flaws in other people. the ancient greeks solved this problem 2500 years ago: the sophists held that the first person to insult the other in an argument instead of giving a proper response is the loser in any argument.