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« Reply #360 on: January 11, 2011, 09:50:41 AM »

I've heard that Batman: The Brave and the Bold is awesome, unanimously. Don't know how that's controversial.

So this would be: I think Batman: The Brave and the Bold is unbearably cheesy and the  worst Batman cartoon I've seen so far. It's not funny enough to be a parody and impossible to take seriously.

That's about right. For some reason, some people want to make Batman a grim detective only, despite the fact that he's probably one of the most polyvalent fictional characters in Modern English Litterature.

In the last year alone he as been a caveman, a pirate, a pilgrim a cowboy and dead.
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« Reply #361 on: January 11, 2011, 11:42:36 AM »

Speaking of samples, here's another opinion: Girl Talk is mediocre and overhyped.
I don't think it's fair to say he's mediocre. He's very skilled at what he does, he just happens to pull samples almost exclusively from songs I don't like.

That sort of sampling is not good sampling in my book. I appreciate that he relied completely on samplers to create his music, but the end result could have been easily made without all that hassle. Not only that, but the end result is unremarkable.
But DJ Shadow is your favorite DJ savior. Sad

I prefer DJ Shadow to most sample artists because while his use of samples is obviously less hyperactive and technically impressive than many people's, it's more artful. Endtroducing is a timeless piece of art, not a series of gimmicks.
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« Reply #362 on: January 11, 2011, 12:35:18 PM »

The scientific community and academia are corrupt.

At a university I attend there is a professor who used class assignments (given to students) to influence the United States justice system in a murder trial.  Some of the assignments were false with fictional numbers.  Upon discovery this damaged the university and professor's image.  It was a mess.  The professor was disciplined and retains his employment at the university.

Research results are left unpublished if found undesirable.  This frequently occurs in the scientific community (including public universities and grant funded research).

Many papers submitted for peer review are rejected without having been read in their entirety with less than a minute spent reviewing the paper.   Some papers are rejected because the reviewer dislikes the author's work. Knowing the right people involved in the peer review process can greatly increase the likelihood of one's paper getting published.

I've heard reports that there are a lot of dishonest practices occurring in the peer review process.  Some papers submitted to peer review contain nonfactual information.  Published papers are republished without permission.  Paper's are stolen and published.  Perhaps some of this results from pressures on academic persons to publish papers.  Some papers are submitted to numerous peer simultaneously where they are published some places and rejected at others.

Undesirable reports and test results may be published with an attempt to gloss over and marginalize any negative findings and emphasize any positive findings.

Some of the most commonly used books in academia press a thesis so strongly that the books border on propaganda with its omission of details, assumptions, half-truths, biased rounding of numbers, source mining and dishonest statements.  Some professor's at universities have a thesis they inappropriately press and argue for in class.
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« Reply #363 on: January 11, 2011, 12:48:35 PM »

I've heard that Batman: The Brave and the Bold is awesome, unanimously. Don't know how that's controversial.

So this would be: I think Batman: The Brave and the Bold is unbearably cheesy and the  worst Batman cartoon I've seen so far. It's not funny enough to be a parody and impossible to take seriously.
i know its your opinion and stuff, but it honestly seems like you are looking at the show the wrong way. something doesn't have to be SUPER GRIMDARK or a laugh-a-minute, it just a lighthearted superhero show that pays homage to adam west batman, delves ridiculously deep into dc lore, and can go all sorts of places that no other superhero shows have been able to because of its tone.
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« Reply #364 on: January 11, 2011, 01:15:29 PM »

But DJ Shadow is your favorite DJ savior. Sad

I prefer DJ Shadow to most sample artists because while his use of samples is obviously less hyperactive and technically impressive than many people's, it's more artful. Endtroducing is a timeless piece of art, not a series of gimmicks.

I like "Midnight in a perfect world", but find other tracks not that good.
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« Reply #365 on: January 12, 2011, 05:48:07 AM »

Eternal Daughter is Derek Yu's best game.

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« Reply #366 on: January 12, 2011, 06:07:21 AM »

while his use of samples is obviously less hyperactive and technically impressive than many people's, it's more artful. Endtroducing is a timeless piece of art, not a series of gimmicks.
This.

Also, one thing I really like about sample-based music is the "crate digging" aspect. Almost all of Shadow's sources for Endtroducing are pretty obscure (he's said to own more than 60000 vinyl records), and more importantly, a substantial amount of them are pretty far removed from the genre he's rooted in (hip-hop). I think that's a kind of art/skill as well, taking a sample from, say, a 60s psychedelic rock song and re-appropriating it for hip-hop/downtempo-ish electronic music.

Girl Talk makes mainstream pop music out of mainstream pop music. I think at least from a compositional standpoint, that's far less challenging than what DJ Shadow does.
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« Reply #367 on: January 12, 2011, 09:44:16 AM »

Eternal Daughter is Derek Yu's best game.

I didn't like Eternal Daughter.

I also didn't like the constant monologues in Aquaria. It recently reminded me of Other M.

Spelunky is Derek Yu's greatest game.
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« Reply #368 on: January 12, 2011, 09:51:54 AM »

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I have never played Noitu Love 2.
I am still waiting for a good indie RPG: I really don't like The Spirit Engine 1 or 2, because while the battle system is kind of neat the games themselves kind of fall apart.

Also:
I love well-designed engaging MMOs, and despise terrible cash-in ones, and though I have played (and enjoyed, the former much more than the latter) both I have still never played WoW.
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« Reply #369 on: January 12, 2011, 11:37:38 PM »

I don't think anyone said this yet but I don't care for Douglas Adams or that book Good Omens.
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« Reply #370 on: January 12, 2011, 11:59:40 PM »

I support describing music with very specific genres. It seems like the "in" thing to do is complain about "pigeonholing" and how calling something with a name is somehow creatively restricting it, but hell no, that just means you're choosing the wrong genres.

Think of a world without genres. You are now thinking of a world where you cannot describe a band's sound without going "well they're kind of like band X... with band Y's guitars. And their vocals are really high-pitched. What does band Y sound like? Well, they sound like band Z, but basically with a slower tempo and also more atmospheric... and better. Band Z is kind of like Metallica, but not."
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« Reply #371 on: January 13, 2011, 01:49:33 AM »

Drumcorps eats Bong-Ra for breakfast (pun unintended) when it comes to playing live. Even when he tries to sing.
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« Reply #372 on: January 13, 2011, 05:00:54 AM »

I don't think anyone said this yet but I don't care for Douglas Adams or that book Good Omens.
Same here.
And Terry Pratchet either.
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« Reply #373 on: January 13, 2011, 05:15:52 AM »

Drumcorps eats Bong-Ra for breakfast (pun unintended) when it comes to playing live. Even when he tries to sing.
This is controversial? Aaron Spectre is a fucking beast live, one of the very few people who can "rock out" on a laptop without looking goofy or awkward.
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« Reply #374 on: January 13, 2011, 05:18:25 AM »

This is controversial? Aaron Spectre is a fucking beast live, one of the very few people who can "rock out" on a laptop without looking goofy or awkward.

Yeah, I guess anyone who has seen him live would agree. On a side note, he was playing a guitar all the fucking time  Hand Shake Left Evil Hand Metal Right
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« Reply #375 on: January 13, 2011, 07:51:37 AM »

I am still waiting for a good indie RPG: I really don't like The Spirit Engine 1 or 2, because while the battle system is kind of neat the games themselves kind of fall apart.

You should try out the Avernium games, if you haven't. They're very hard to get into because of the quite unappealing stiff visuals, but once you get past that they're a lot of fun. Especially if you liked Baldurs Gate 1 and 2 (though I wont lie; the Baldurs Gate games are much, much better...)

Though... you could argue the visuals in Avernium are an even more significant detriment to the game; that exploring a giant world is inherently less exciting when the world doesn't look that good.
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« Reply #376 on: January 13, 2011, 08:19:03 AM »

The scientific community and academia are corrupt.

At a university I attend there is a professor who used class assignments (given to students) to influence the United States justice system in a murder trial.  Some of the assignments were false with fictional numbers.  Upon discovery this damaged the university and professor's image.  It was a mess.  The professor was disciplined and retains his employment at the university.

Research results are left unpublished if found undesirable.  This frequently occurs in the scientific community (including public universities and grant funded research).

Many papers submitted for peer review are rejected without having been read in their entirety with less than a minute spent reviewing the paper.   Some papers are rejected because the reviewer dislikes the author's work. Knowing the right people involved in the peer review process can greatly increase the likelihood of one's paper getting published.

I've heard reports that there are a lot of dishonest practices occurring in the peer review process.  Some papers submitted to peer review contain nonfactual information.  Published papers are republished without permission.  Paper's are stolen and published.  Perhaps some of this results from pressures on academic persons to publish papers.  Some papers are submitted to numerous peer simultaneously where they are published some places and rejected at others.

Undesirable reports and test results may be published with an attempt to gloss over and marginalize any negative findings and emphasize any positive findings.

Some of the most commonly used books in academia press a thesis so strongly that the books border on propaganda with its omission of details, assumptions, half-truths, biased rounding of numbers, source mining and dishonest statements.  Some professor's at universities have a thesis they inappropriately press and argue for in class.


I don't have firsthand experience with the academic/scientific community but it sounds to me like you are describing every other industry/field/community as well. If it's run by humans, chances are there is going to be politics or drama involved.
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« Reply #377 on: January 13, 2011, 08:26:10 AM »

This is not to complain about politics, religion, science, or other forum happenings.
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« Reply #378 on: January 13, 2011, 08:34:39 AM »

I think Brutal Legend is much better than Psychonauts. I mean sure, Psychonauts is funnier, but it plays like arse. Like, it is actually terrible. Brutal Legend, on the other hand, despite some niggles, was actually a remarkably solid game. I even thought the RTS stuff was interesting. It didn't completely work, but it was interesting.

I think the Burton Batmans are awful. Sure, they look good compared to the Schumacher films (particularly the-film-that-shall-not-be-named), but they're fairly awful on their own merits. The first one always freaks me out because the Joker is pretty much the good guy, despite being a freaky psychopath. At least he did something, unlike Keaton's Batman, who acted like a weird humourless robot the whole time.
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« Reply #379 on: January 13, 2011, 10:35:41 AM »

I support describing music with very specific genres. It seems like the "in" thing to do is complain about "pigeonholing" and how calling something with a name is somehow creatively restricting it, but hell no, that just means you're choosing the wrong genres.
If every piece of music ever made fit neatly into a single genre, I'd agree with you. Also, even in a world without genres you could still describe the instrumentation, the tempo, what kind of notes and chords are used, etc. to give someone a pretty good picture of what the music sounds like. Genres are really just shorthand for that.

The very idea that genres can describe anything specifically kind of runs counter to what genres are about, i.e. more or less broad categories used for identifying common traits. Not every piece of music made within a single genre sounds the same, so for genres to be an accurate description of music, every single (original) piece of music ever made would have to have its own genre, at which point genres become meaningless.

Lastly, I don't think of tiny, minuscule sub-sub-sub-genres of which many exist in metal and electronic dance music (for instance) as proper genres. They're closer to the realm of specific description. For instance, something like "Epic Blackened Sludge Death Metal" or "Techhousebreakstep" are compound genres and they're just a way to say "this music contains elements from these (sub)genres".
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