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[Filth]

Wouldn't a single scientist as the passenger still be very overpowered?

[mokesmoe]

A healing ship with the fire power of one scientist is not more powerful than two fighters on foot.

[John Sandoval]

A healing ship with the fire power of one scientist is not more powerful than two fighters on foot.

You have much to learn, my young apprentice.

[mokesmoe]

two good people in a ship is better than two not as good people not in a ship, but that's not exactly the fairest test.

The point was that two soldiers firing at the same time can out damage the healing.

[Hempuli‽]

I think I'll make it so that scientists don't heal/heal less when they're inside a machine. That's more logical, too.

I was away most of this day, so the new update doesn't have much to it. New things:

• A player list (reveal by holding E!)
• The oddball! This means that rounds can be won now (this'll probably break easily, though)

VERSION 1.53 GET!

[DrOctapu]

I think I'll make it so that scientists don't heal/heal less when they're inside a machine. That's more logical, too.

I was away most of this day, so the new update doesn't have much to it. New things:

• A player list (reveal by holding E!)
• The oddball! This means that rounds can be won now (this'll probably break easily, though)

VERSION 1.53 GET!

:O
Cool.

[Hempuli‽]

Ok, the update broke ENDLESS amounts of stuff, reverting back to a non-oddball version.

sorry again.

Also, the bit that worked didn't look too good. The oddball supported camping and waiting and really didn't fit the gameplay at all. I need to think of alternatives.

Also, since this update certain people with usually high FPS started getting a lower one. Seems like I realllly need to figure out that dead reckoning! 

[BlueSweatshirt]

Wow...

I picked a good time to randomly try your game. 


The controls feel really good, and the gravity/etc is quite natural.

My only gripe is the latency, which wasn't terrible, but I definitely got hit a few times where I saw the bullet going past me. Ah well!

[mokesmoe]

I'd say have a king-of-the-hill style objective, instead of an oddball based one. You could have it up in the air, or underground too. This still technically promotes camping, but camping in the middle of the map and camping in your base are two different things.

I think it should be in a zone underground (or going with my previous suggestion, in the stone layer), this means once you dig there you can build a temporary base there, but your opponents could dig in from any side. This also gives deep tunnels a purpose other than minerals, because earlier everyone would fly across or run across the ground level. It also extends the size of the map, because any other objectives I can think of would just be a push between the bases, ignoring the underground.

[Hempuli‽]

I'd say have a king-of-the-hill style objective, instead of an oddball based one. You could have it up in the air, or underground too. This still technically promotes camping, but camping in the middle of the map and camping in your base are two different things.

I think it should be in a zone underground (or going with my previous suggestion, in the stone layer), this means once you dig there you can build a temporary base there, but your opponents could dig in from any side. This also gives deep tunnels a purpose other than minerals, because earlier everyone would fly across or run across the ground level. It also extends the size of the map, because any other objectives I can think of would just be a push between the bases, ignoring the underground.

To be honest, this idea sounds pretty nice. The reason I wanted the oddball -idea instead of, say, just deathmatch and/or capture the flag was because I was going to implement more time-consuming stuff like building and digging. Those aren't of any use if the game lasts 10 minutes, and the oddball seemingly supported longer rounds. Which it actually did, but not in the way I intended.

I guess I'll try to implement this today if I have time, and then maybe the research screen. I'll also try to locate what it might be that started causing even more slowdown for certain players, though this most probably means I have to pick up the dead reckoning code. I guess I also ought to implement the non-FPS-basedness I promised. Lots of stuff to do!

[Rumrusher]

why not add a free play, odd ball, king of the hill selection for host in game.
Oh maybe have horrible creatures dig up under the bases and force both groups to see how long they can survive a competitive survival team building game mode.

[Filth]

Perhaps you could have the artifact in the underground zone as well.
Once one of the teams 'wins' the king-of-the-hill part, they'll have to escort the artifact to their spawn point.

Also,
Guy: Oh right, now that you're here, Hemp
Guy: Could the hitbox of the diggers and builders be slightly smaller?
Guy: It's a bit difficult to go through 1x1 holes

[Hempuli‽]

Rumrusher: the survival I'll spare for my next game.

Filth: I'll do that a bit later.

Sandoval: could you tell me if you still get weird slowdown now that I reverted the build?

[Filth]

[John Sandoval]

Uh dude, when I hit the update tab, AVG threw up a malware alert.... It hadn't done that for any of the previous versions.

I trust you enough to not asplode my laptop with viruses, but this gave me a bit of a scare.

The file name was C:\Documents and Settings\Sandoval\local settings\temp\mrt868\stdrt.exe