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nikki
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« Reply #3810 on: December 28, 2012, 12:25:50 PM »

speaking of werdness in IDE's

in vs2010 I want to find a 'project tree' : method and variable names (with signatures) , preferably indented under their classes.
I found something like that in a dropdown on the top/right of my screen.
but is there some window i am missing ? A solution explorer/project manager can't be all right ?
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« Reply #3811 on: December 28, 2012, 12:34:49 PM »

speaking of werdness in IDE's

in vs2010 I want to find a 'project tree' : method and variable names (with signatures) , preferably indented under their classes.

Visual Studio 2012 has a nice "Class view" pane for that - not sure if 2010 has it - View -> Class View. The Visual Assist X addon also provides an even better "VA Outline" panel that breaks down classes, class member variables, methods, etc., in document order, lets you navigate to them, refactor / rename, find all references, etc. Really handy.
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« Reply #3812 on: December 28, 2012, 01:41:24 PM »

yeah such a thing, preferably in a same sort of accordeon/tree thingie like the solution explorer. but helas in vs2010 there is no \view-> Class View

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« Reply #3813 on: December 28, 2012, 01:50:17 PM »

git...

*grump grump grump*
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« Reply #3814 on: December 28, 2012, 01:53:26 PM »

yeah such a thing, preferably in a same sort of accordeon/tree thingie like the solution explorer. but helas in vs2010 there is no \view-> Class View

http://www.wholetomato.com/  = really good.
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« Reply #3815 on: December 28, 2012, 04:26:03 PM »

yeah such a thing, preferably in a same sort of accordeon/tree thingie like the solution explorer. but helas in vs2010 there is no \view-> Class View

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Try going to Tools > Settings and if you're in Basic Settings switch to Expert, then look for View > Class View again.
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« Reply #3816 on: December 28, 2012, 09:01:41 PM »

Hmm, why are the controls in my game randomly getting stuck?
keys[event.keyboard.key].setPressed(event.mouse.button.action == GLFW_PRESS);

...Oh, yep, that'd do it.
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« Reply #3817 on: December 28, 2012, 09:10:57 PM »

yeah such a thing, preferably in a same sort of accordeon/tree thingie like the solution explorer. but helas in vs2010 there is no \view-> Class View

http://www.wholetomato.com/  = really good.

oh yeah I LOVE VAssistX
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« Reply #3818 on: December 29, 2012, 02:09:34 AM »

yeah well I seem to remember reading many posts here and there where people proclaimed the visual studio IDE to be the best thing since sliced bread...

Are there more missing features* that I need to buy 100$ plugins for ?
And if these sort of essentials come from 3rd party tools; Why is this visual studio so great then?
compared to free alternatives like sharpdevelop, monodevelop. (I'll test this out myself, last time I checked monodevelop crashed occasionaly)

But I am ranting sry, atleast this is the grumpy room, I'll give the VAssistX trial a go.

Oh and btw So does this mean I can stop searching for it in VS2010; it's really not there ?


*) or are these features of other version then the express editions ?



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Try going to Tools > Settings and if you're in Basic Settings switch to Expert, then look for View > Class View again.

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« Reply #3819 on: December 29, 2012, 04:33:55 AM »

vassistX is only for C++ it actually hinders visual studio for C#. You defintely want to disable it if you are using visual studio for C#.

I"m generally not a fan of MS but when it comes to IDE's visual studio is still one of the best i've ever used.

that said sharpdevelop is free? I thought it was a commercial project.

Also I love monodevelop but for c# visual studio (without plugins) is easily better
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« Reply #3820 on: December 29, 2012, 04:35:30 AM »

i think i might have gotten sharpdevelop mixed up with resharper

I'll have to give sharpdevelop a try
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« Reply #3821 on: December 30, 2012, 02:32:53 PM »

yeah such a thing, preferably in a same sort of accordeon/tree thingie like the solution explorer. but helas in vs2010 there is no \view-> Class View

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« Reply #3822 on: December 30, 2012, 08:39:20 PM »

Sometimes I wonder why I bother with learning optimizations. It's usually unnoticeable except on the 15% of hardware that gets phased out in 2 years anyway. And when it is optimized, it's rarely the bottleneck.

But when it's just so much easier to get a fire alarm than put out a fire when it happens, you tend to get the fire alarm anyway, just to feel good. Even though you never expect to use it. And it kinda looks cool, even though nobody else sees it.

Not really a grumpy programmer thing, but there's no 'ambivalent programmer' thread.
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« Reply #3823 on: December 31, 2012, 05:40:28 AM »

If I may be your aide: start profiling, then optimize. Stop wasting your time Gentleman
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« Reply #3824 on: December 31, 2012, 06:29:41 AM »

Not really a grumpy programmer thing, but there's no 'ambivalent programmer' thread.

Maybe no one cared enough to create it?  Wink
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