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« Reply #30 on: March 17, 2011, 06:23:26 AM »

On the subject of releasing a test build, the first round of testing will probably be organised through my Twitter account(@OddballDave), so keep an eye out there if you're interested in getting in on the the first public build.

Aiyo!! I'm in China and twitter is banned because its... counterstrike ... revolutionary, er something? Make an exception... pretty please?
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« Reply #31 on: March 17, 2011, 08:24:47 AM »

Hey I just wanted to say the game looks great and I was wondering if you had any plans for multiplayer on or offline so you could go into dungeons cooperatively.
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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2011, 11:26:50 AM »

reminds me of catacomb kids
both look similar/awesome Tiger
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« Reply #33 on: March 22, 2011, 04:11:55 PM »

@ecloctocrat: I'll try and work something out for the TIGFolk to have a go at testing.

@Sean A.: As a matter of fact when I was brainstorming for this at the start of development I was banding around the idea of having a four or five man party of characters. Decided against it in the end as it didn't sit right with the turn based nature of the game. If someone is dragging their feet the rest have to wait for them.

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I decided it was time to rework the enemy AI to make the enemies tactics a little less predictable. I ripped out the old code and rewrote it from scratch, and it's turned out great. The enemy's behaviour is formulated based upon three elements, the creature's intelligence, the creature's combat prowess, and the current situation.

There are four levels of creature intelligence, none/animal, dumb/bloodlust, normal, and smart.
Durr...? None/animal is for animals, like giant rats, or creature with no intelligence at all, like zombies and golems. Creatures with this intelligence will usual charge when attacked or threatened.
Angry Dumb/bloodlust is for unintelligent monsters, like Trolls, or bloodthirsty creatures, like barbarians. Dumb isn't much of a step up from none, but dumb monsters will alert comrades and formulate tactics with them, like cutting of the players retreat.
Smiley Normal is the most common intellect level which most enemies will have. Normal has a far greater range of tactics, and can even decide to pickup objects from fallen comrades if it will improve their situation. Other tactics are hanging back and using ranged weapons, or retreating to gather more help.
Tiger Smart is reserved for the most intelligent characters you'll encounter, mainly bosses and their kind. It isn't much different to normal, but those small variances make all the difference. Smart monsters are more interested in self preservation than the others and will order comrades to wear down the player before endangering themselves.

The creature's combat prowess is based upon its skill when compared to the player. Enemies weaker than the player are more likely to hesitate, hang back or even retreat. Whereas monsters stronger than the player will be braver and more likely to engage the player quickly, even if that means the player will get the first strike.

The final aspect, situation, is based solely on the situation the player and enemies find themselves in at that moment in time. For example a cornered enemy isn't going to hang back when faced with a player armed with a bow, he'd just be pelted with arrows. He's more likely to charge the player.

Using these three factors the enemy have a rich arsenal of behaviours that throw up some interesting combats. Here's a few examples from my testing, two goblins with normal intelligence aided by two giant rats with animal intellect. One goblin sports a bow so he hung back and laid down covering fire, the other equipped with a longsword hung back just long enough to let the two giant rats take the first few hits before joining the fray.

Another example, I opened a door to reveal a goblin rager, with bloodlust, who immediately charged at me. I wasn't too worried as I easily outmatched him, but unbeknownst to me he had alerted an unarmed hobgoblin, normal intellect, who wasn't in my view. The fight with the rager only lasted a couple of turns but in that time the hobgoblin had managed to alert more enemies to my presence. Before I realised what had happened there where now about ten enemies bearing down on me and my situation needless to say had become hopeless.

Wow! That turned into a wall of text. As you can probably gather I'm quite pleased with how the enemy AI worked out. In other news I've also been working on the visual cues for the various actions characters can perform. Attack animations have been in for a while, but other things like, item pick ups, drinking potions, etc. had no visual cue to show they had happened. They're not all in yet but I've got most of it done. I've been trying to avoid using particle effects for any of it, but some of my visual effects aren't up to standard so I my have to relent and have a bespoke few particle effects. Next I might have a go at sound, although I haven't even considered what I'm going to do for music yet.

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« Reply #34 on: March 22, 2011, 04:17:04 PM »

Sounds good. ^_^
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« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2011, 10:33:49 AM »

Good? It sounds Brilliant! Shocked
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« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2011, 01:59:09 PM »

I was trying to think of a way to do turn based multiplayer but I can't. Damn. I would love to play this with friends.
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« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2011, 01:51:13 PM »

I'm just polishing, optimising, and bug fixing at the moment so to make up for the lack of an interesting update I shall post a gameplay video. Let me know what you think.

Gameplay video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAHtHOewJJY
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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2011, 02:42:20 PM »

Amazing. I hope you can give us a price soon. I:
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« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2011, 03:56:35 PM »

I can not wait for this. looks really exciting. I have a couple questions though.

1. Is there any XP or is it all gear based?
2. Who will be doing the Music?
3. Will it be released and then added to like Dwarf Fortress or once its finished its done?
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« Reply #40 on: March 27, 2011, 02:31:47 PM »

Thanks guys.

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1. There isn't an xp score for killing monsters or any character levels, but you can increase your stats by various ways throughout the dungeon. In the video the first barrel contains an enchanted brew which increases the wizards magic attack/damage stats by one for the rest of the dungeon. Later on in the vid(~6mins) the wizard prays at an alter and is rewarded with +1 to his natural armour and resistance to silvered weapons. There are also many other ways of increasing your stats that aren't shown in the video.
2. I have no idea at all about this. I have no musical contacts at all, so don't have any 'go to' guy in this area. I'll have to start sounding people out soon though I suppose.
3. I'd like it to be finished on release, but it is made in such a way that it can be expanded upon later.
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« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2011, 04:05:37 PM »

So is there any other reward for killing monsters other than them not being there anymore?
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« Reply #42 on: March 28, 2011, 03:11:33 PM »

Them not being there anymore is a pretty big reward in itself, but they do drop items as well.
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« Reply #43 on: March 31, 2011, 04:43:56 PM »

Whilst I had my video editing software open I had a go at a teaser trailer just for fun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRdS0aqqjhw
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« Reply #44 on: April 02, 2011, 09:41:19 PM »

 Kiss Totally balls to the wall awesome. Is the final price going to be 20 or so, or more like 10 or under? In US dollars.
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