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[Nix]

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[Player Ʒ]

Explain a bit more. Where're your sources? Does this mean I immediately have to convince my family to throw out every light bulb in the house in order to obey the law?

[Ben_Hurr]

What

[Μarkham]

Yay, accidental Mercury poisoning for everyone!   :handshakeR:


[edit]Though, what does this mean for those who actually need to use incandescent bulbs for work, like with film-making and photography?

[slembcke]

It's been in the news for a while. A simple Google search will get you more information than you wanted to know.

I don't remember the details exactly, but basically bulbs that don't meet certain efficiency standards can't be sold anymore. I've heard stories about people stockpiling incandescent bulbs because of it heh.

[Nix]

Though, what does this mean for those who actually need to use incandescent bulbs for work, like with film-making and photography?

Sucks for you. You have to throw out your Easy-Bake oven too.

(I don't know. Maybe there's a clause for professional needs)

[---]

I think this is dumb. Sure it'll cut down energy, but this has to be invading freedom of speech somehow.

[Nix]

but this has to be invading freedom of speech somehow.

heh
 

[Riley Adams]

I understand banning something that's outright dangerous, but I don't think banning something just for being wasteful is a good idea... I really don't think that's a precedent we want to set.

[increpare]

Congress haven't banned incandescent bulbs.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/12/business/energy-environment/12bulb.html <- what I assume he's talking about.

[ஒழுக்கின்மை]

not a ban but corporatist oppression nonetheless

"Although the United States is not phasing out incandescent light bulbs, it has set minimum efficiency standards for lighting which preclude most legacy incandescent designs; these minimum standards phase in between 2012 and 2014.[8]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phase-out_of_incandescent_light_bulbs

"Two-thirds of Austrians surveyed stated they believe the phase-out to be "nonsensical", with 53.6% believing their health to be at risk of mercury poisoning.[53] 72% of Americans believe the government has no right to dictate which light bulb they may use.[54] The Czech Republic President, Vaclav Klaus, urged people to stockpile enough incandescent bulbs to last their lifetime.[55]"

and yes the new lights are much more dangerous; they contain much more poisonous materials, although they do in fact save energy

[Player Ʒ]

If the LED bulb becomes cheaper, then maybe I may consider switching.

[Nix]

i get my information from this clearly unbiased news source: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45156

[C.A. Silbereisen]

Paul Eres ripped the words right outta my mouth.

I'm one of those 53.6% of Austrians who thought the phase-out was nonsensical. Well whatever I'm just going to keep lighting my apartment with incandescent bulbs as long as I can while I wait for LED bulbs to become more affordable. I ain't usin' none of that fluorescent crap.

[Player Ʒ]

So in other words, it's the standards that are banning incandescent bulbs.

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I'd much rather have incandescent. Even if more energy is being used, I'd pay for it to keep from dying of mercury poisoning.

Also, those LED bulbs aren't bright enough.

[ஒழுக்கின்மை]

i get my information from this clearly unbiased news source: http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45156

dated 2007 -- four years ago

[Nix]

http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/376728/march-08-2011/light-bulb-ban

(it is old news, but it's about to finally catch up to us)

[ஒழுக்கின்மை]

i myself don't mind the new lights and use them for most of the lamps i own -- although i was scared a bit of mercury when i accidentally broke one about two years ago (according to the warnings/recommendations you have to abandon the room and open all windows for hours when that happens, as a precaution, which i did), but i wouldn't want to prevent others from using other kinds

i do hope at least they continue to sell the old ones for special circumstances / health reasons / photography reasons (particularly health reasons, there are people who are badly affected by the new lights), but it doesn't look good. i suppose those people could always go back to candlelight (although those have dangers of their own, such as the risk of fires)

[C.A. Silbereisen]

(although those have dangers of their own, such as the risk of fires)

Candles also produce smoke that can have serious effects on health, particularly when used in modern-day small apartment rooms with closed windows with the same frequency that you would use electric light. Add the fact that You'd have light a whole lot of candles for them to be a decent light source to that.