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« Reply #75 on: April 19, 2011, 01:46:23 PM »

The original story of Starship Troopers actually has very little to do with politics.

Ummmm... It's a didactic sci-fi tale, it devotes several chapters just to politics and social theory. Many people have commented on the political theory put forward in Starship Troopers in much more official and serious forums.

It is also, however, a coming-of-age story and everything else you said, too. Smiley
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« Reply #76 on: April 19, 2011, 01:49:40 PM »

I suspect farce-aspect of the film is impossible to avoid. Think of it this way: how many war-movies do you know that don't glorify war?
Yes, the majority of films do attempt to lionize war, rather than showing the far grimmer truth of the matter. And it is a crime that the entertainment industry doesn't get called out on nearly often enough. Of course, video games are guilty of the same behavior, possibly to an even more extreme degree. Verhoeven's work was an honest reprisal to a potentially destructive and disingenuous attitude that the entertainment industry, especially the United States entertainment industry, is guilty of adopting.

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Did you notice how even their looks are one-dimensional? Much too young (although... actually not as young as the novel, I understand?) and perfect.

Oh yeah, I noticed. (whooof) The main character/protagonist Johnny Rico could have easily stepped out of a Nazi recruitment poster from the 1930s. Chiseled jaw, high cheekbones, light hair, the works. And the uniforms for the film's "intelligence" division were straight-up SS.

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And I don't think anyone would make the mistake of confusing this movie with real military life. Except maybe the people who believe the way the military is portrayed in other movies is realistic too. If anything, the movie is mocking war movies, I think. But I don't know much about the real military, so I should say that with caution.
That's true. I honestly don't think most soldiers would take this film as directed at them personally. It's just far to exaggerated to take seriously. And I haven't really heard of any outcry from actual military personnel over it. Ultimately, my primary objection is the use of the Starship Trooper licence itself. They could have easily made a film with the same message based off of a more original story.
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« Reply #77 on: April 19, 2011, 02:01:49 PM »

I suspect farce-aspect of the film is impossible to avoid. Think of it this way: how many war-movies do you know that don't glorify war?

Empire of the Sun
The Diary of Anne Frank
Letters From Iwo Jima
Barefoot Gen
Grave of the Fireflies

It's been a while since I've seen most of those, but I remember coming away from them with the impression of how horrible war is.
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« Reply #78 on: April 19, 2011, 02:45:27 PM »



Hey guys, according to some people in the other thread, the US Office is better than the UK one.
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« Reply #79 on: April 19, 2011, 02:59:46 PM »

Meanwhile, somewhere in Antarctica all the penguins must be laughing at us.
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« Reply #80 on: April 19, 2011, 06:26:30 PM »

Do you guys know what canv.as is? That's basically what you're doing here (I can send you an invite if you want. I don't use it much)
Do you guys know what 4chan is? That's basically what you're doing here (I can send you an invite if you want. I don't use it much)
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« Reply #81 on: April 19, 2011, 06:32:36 PM »

This whole US vs. EU spectacle is just to distract you from the ultimate war, the humans versus the reptile overlords.
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« Reply #82 on: April 19, 2011, 08:07:14 PM »

Do you guys know what canv.as is? That's basically what you're doing here (I can send you an invite if you want. I don't use it much)
Do you guys know what 4chan is? That's basically what you're doing here (I can send you an invite if you want. I don't use it much)

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