Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Login with username, password and session length

 
Advanced search

877294 Posts in 32856 Topics- by 24294 Members - Latest Member: RopeDrink

May 19, 2013, 04:49:57 AM
TIGSource ForumsPlayerGeneralWhere is All the Tolerance for Asexuals & Celibates?
Pages: 1 ... 3 4 [5] 6 7 8
Print
Author Topic: Where is All the Tolerance for Asexuals & Celibates?  (Read 5902 times)
AMAZON
Level 10
*****



View Profile Email
« Reply #60 on: April 17, 2011, 07:24:08 AM »

very long post

i can definitely vouch for this. a lot of people seem to think that because some christians are intolerant assholes, every christian is a strict fundamentalist who still thinks the universe revolves around the earth and hates everyone who doesn't do whatever they are told. in reality, almost nobody is like this and even if they were, it doesn't give people any right to discriminate back because of "guilty by association" or whatever the excuse is.
Logged

14113
Level 10
*****



View Profile
« Reply #61 on: April 17, 2011, 07:40:54 AM »

People fear/hate what they do not understand.
People tend to not understand sexuality.
So they hate it and try to categorize it "jock slut pimp marriage".
If we cut up the world and up everything into neat little symbols, a word for every concept, a concept for every thing, we can feel in control.
But reality is beyond description.
this
Logged

in fact, i prefer unpleasant forums
Nektonico
Level 2
**


Time traveller graffiti


View Profile Email
« Reply #62 on: April 17, 2011, 10:09:21 AM »

People fear/hate what they do not understand.
People tend to not understand sexuality.
So they hate it and try to categorize it "jock slut pimp marriage".
If we cut up the world and up everything into neat little symbols, a word for every concept, a concept for every thing, we can feel in control.
But reality is beyond description.

Actually, people tend to understand nothing at all (not just human sexuality).

But its silly saying people hate something just because they dont understand it. Its not sexuality that they hate, its just sexuality different from their own.
Logged

He was built by the worlds finest surgeons to drive the fastest car ever designed and nothing can stop him now.
ಠ_ృ

“The greatest misfortune is when theory outstrips performance.” - Leonardo DaVinci
The Monster King
Level 10
*****


FRKUC im ALWAYS ANGRY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnerd


View Profile Email
« Reply #63 on: April 17, 2011, 01:36:01 PM »

white males dont have quotas and (written) positive discrimination

cry me a fucking river
Logged
PaleFox
Guest
« Reply #64 on: April 17, 2011, 03:07:47 PM »

yeah man society really shits on the straight christian white man

i mean, men get paid more than women;
straight men have it easier getting jobs over openly gay men;
straight men can be openly straight without risking death or beatings or being shunned by society;
christianity (or religion in general) gets special benefits in many countries the same is true of other religions;
and no country that i know of gives special benefits to atheists

and true, most of the globe has suffered from imperialism at the hands of white people but they get to wear shirts so its unfair for them to judge us

truly a river of hatred and unfairness
Logged
speeder
BANNED
Level 3
*



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #65 on: April 17, 2011, 04:24:40 PM »

At least where I live, gay people get jobs easier (because if you refuse to hire one after he tell you he is gay, you get sued for anti-gay discrimination).

Also that men get more money than women is sort of a misconception.

In general, it is true, yes, if you sum all men and women, women truly get 77% of the money.

But if you compare individuals in the same job, usually women get paid HIGHER.

Then, why men get more money? It is because many (not all) women work less hours, and many women work in less demanding jobs (not because they are lazy mind you, but because they have more responsabilities than the jobs), and many refuse to work in particularly dangerous jobs. For example, rapelling window cleaners in Brazil has one of the highest salaries of the country (many get 5000 USD monthly or even more, while the average wage monthly is 400 USD), but about 95% of them are male, because females plainly refuse to take such dangerous job (it is not employers that refuse to hire them).

So yes, men collectively do get more money, but individually in the same job with the same hours, they get less. What happen is that men get more jobs, and more higher paying jobs.



Also like I just said, I once nearly got a beating (I escaped) when I declared being straight while in middle of gays. This go both ways.

Also my house got attacked many (that I know, it is 7 or more) times by black people, because I am white. (living in a mostly black neighborhood).

And it is not because that some white people were imperialists, that all white people are evil and deserve to get less rights than the others. (erm, several constitutions say all citizens are equals... but seemly this does not apply to gays, black, native americans...)

Also atheist rights also exist, for example in many countries religious symbols are banned in some places (like schools, legal courts, public repartitions... and there is a known case here in Brazil of a soccer player getting a red card after showing a t-shirt of Jesus after scoring a goal).




What I mean is, it is nice to push rights for equality, for example women did not had the right to vote, then first generation feminism got it, and then both men and women had the right to vote, thus becoming equals. Blacks were slaves, then they were freed, now becoming equal to whites. But now after those rights exist, people want rights that take the rights of another, for example everyone has the right for education, unfortunately not always education is available to everyone (Brazil for example only 3% of the population has university), the government decided that then blacks deserved to get in university more than whites, taking the right of a white to study, and giving it to a black. Thus tipping the scale and making it unequal. The government here used as reason to create black quotas, the fact that only 3% of the university students were black... They only did not told that also only 3% of the students were white, all others were tagged as mixed race, asian, native american or something else.  Also, during the quota controversy, one faction in the government supressed research from another group, where they found that 3% of the population was black... And in the end, several universities got a 10% black person quota. So, if 3% of the population is black, and 3% of the university population was black, why now blacks have more right than whites to study? Why blacks are entitled to 10% instead of the 3% that they already had? And why hard studying whites and asians, do not have the right to learn anymore?


And final interesting tidbit: http://blig.ig.com.br/jornalistadiplomado/files/2008/12/capa380.jpg

The pic on this magazine, is two brothers that are identical twins. One of them, was allowed to get in as black, the other not.
Logged

phubans
Indier Than Thou
Level 10
*


TIG Mascot


View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #66 on: April 17, 2011, 04:43:35 PM »

the LGBTQA movement hardly ever mentions these other two categories

I'm not sure how to respond to this without coming off as offensive, as I've learned to walk on eggshells in this community due to a few members being very sensitive to my posts. I will say that based on my observations (not general facts), gay folk tend to "wear their sexuality on their sleeve," ie: it's almost impossible not to have it brought up in the topic of almost any/all conversations. As such, I get the impression that a lot of gay folk are hyper-sexual; obsessed with sex and maybe trying to figure out who they are. Or maybe it's just a response to their own sexual repression that society imposes. I'm not sure. Basically, I get the impression that people who associate with a sexual "lifestyle" are very much concerned with sex and less likely to embrace asexual or non-sexual people.

Personally, I've called myself "asexual with hetero tendencies" but I don't think I'm really asexual at all. I still have a sex drive (a very strong one, in fact) but it usually doesn't involve an interest in other people. I consider myself an auto-sexual in the fullest sense. I don't really have any shame in admitting that; I've had sex with other people and it was okay, but I realized that it wasn't anything that I couldn't reproduce on my own without involving others.

So yeah, let's hear it for the auto-sexuals! (This thread needs a poll) Cheesy
Logged

speeder
BANNED
Level 3
*



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #67 on: April 17, 2011, 04:48:14 PM »

Also atheist rights also exist, for example in many countries religious symbols are banned in some places (like schools, legal courts, public repartitions... and there is a known case here in Brazil of a soccer player getting a red card after showing a t-shirt of Jesus after scoring a goal).

you do realize you have a giant fucking statue of jesus


The statue was built when 90% of the population was (at least theoretically) catholic...

And the fact the statue exists is denying rights of atheists how? (here we also have statues of many other things...)
Logged

Gimym TILBERT
Level 10
*****


ILLOGICAL, random guy on internet, do not trust


View Profile Email
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2011, 04:53:50 PM »

Straight people telling joke is not seen as "wearing sexuality", it's only when it's gay and women, yeah slut shaming always! Wink
Logged

Nugsy
Level 10
*****



View Profile
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2011, 06:14:06 PM »

I thought this said "Where is All the Tolerance for Asexuals & Celebrities?".
Logged


Μarkham
Level 10
*****



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2011, 06:42:04 PM »

I thought this said "Where is All the Tolerance for Asexuals & Celebrities?".

This thread is way too short for that...
Logged

SirNiko
Level 10
*****


View Profile Email
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2011, 07:21:03 PM »

Unlike homosexuality, celibacy and asexualism doesn't result in any observable behavior. Two men exchanging vows at an altar? Obviously homosexual. Observing a guy not having sex? That's pretty normal, and not at all indicative of either of the conditions in the thread title.

Like others in this thread, I'd need to see evidence of the problem before I would be inclined to seek a solution.
Logged
paste
Level 6
*


BARF!

HeyIAintEddie
View Profile WWW
« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2011, 05:59:55 AM »

In general, it is true, yes, if you sum all men and women, women truly get 77% of the money.
So yes, men collectively do get more money
Logged

speeder
BANNED
Level 3
*



View Profile WWW Email
« Reply #73 on: April 18, 2011, 11:02:21 AM »

In general, it is true, yes, if you sum all men and women, women truly get 77% of the money.
So yes, men collectively do get more money


And you are quoting that what for? You do not stated your position...
Logged

thatshelby
Level 10
*****



View Profile WWW
« Reply #74 on: April 18, 2011, 11:04:32 AM »

In general, it is true, yes, if you sum all men and women, women truly get 77% of the money.
So yes, men collectively do get more money


Did you even read the entire paragraph that quote was in? Context is very important.
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 3 4 [5] 6 7 8
Print
Jump to:  

Theme orange-lt created by panic