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« Reply #120 on: April 22, 2011, 12:01:47 AM » |
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my theory on Chell's origin is that Cave and Caroline had an affair, thus creating Chell.
bring your daughter to work day.
the dates seen in and on the gel chambers add up to where it could be possible: based on her appearance, Chell could have been born sometime in the 80s. on top of that, Chell, Cave and Caroline all start with C's. it's silly, but it does provide a bit more support for them being connected.
At some point it's said that Caroline is Cave's wife. It's also likely that Chell, having little physical resemblance to Caroline and Cave (picture: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/half-life/en/images/0/00/CJ_and_Caroline.png) and GLaDOS talking about Chell being adopted even while being a potato (GLaDOS says that she's unable to lie while a potato) and in addition one of the potato science projects having Chell's name on it leads to the reasonable conclusion that Chell is Cave and Caroline's adopted daughter. This is also reinforced by the redaction of Chell's last name, which if Johnson could cause GLaDOS to be suspicious, or something. |
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« Reply #121 on: April 22, 2011, 12:19:30 AM » |
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my theory on Chell's origin is that Cave and Caroline had an affair, thus creating Chell.
bring your daughter to work day.
the dates seen in and on the gel chambers add up to where it could be possible: based on her appearance, Chell could have been born sometime in the 80s. on top of that, Chell, Cave and Caroline all start with C's. it's silly, but it does provide a bit more support for them being connected.
At some point it's said that Caroline is Cave's wife. It's also likely that Chell, having little physical resemblance to Caroline and Cave (picture: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/half-life/en/images/0/00/CJ_and_Caroline.png) and GLaDOS talking about Chell being adopted even while being a potato (GLaDOS says that she's unable to lie while a potato) and in addition one of the potato science projects having Chell's name on it leads to the reasonable conclusion that Chell is Cave and Caroline's adopted daughter. This is also reinforced by the redaction of Chell's last name, which if Johnson could cause GLaDOS to be suspicious, or something.
I didn't notice Chell's name on one of the potato battery exhibits, though -- that's a clever detail, I'll have to look for that this time.  ~Josiah |
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« Reply #122 on: April 22, 2011, 02:02:11 AM » |
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At some point it's said that Caroline is Cave's wife. It's also likely that Chell, having little physical resemblance to Caroline and Cave (picture: http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/half-life/en/images/0/00/CJ_and_Caroline.png) and GLaDOS talking about Chell being adopted even while being a potato (GLaDOS says that she's unable to lie while a potato) and in addition one of the potato science projects having Chell's name on it leads to the reasonable conclusion that Chell is Cave and Caroline's adopted daughter. This is also reinforced by the redaction of Chell's last name, which if Johnson could cause GLaDOS to be suspicious, or something. Actually... It's bring your daughter to work day that got Chell in teh facility. We knew this from Portal 1. However, unless you're suggesting that ALL of the children represented by the various projects in the exhibit are Cave Johnson's and Caroline's, it's irrational to make the assumption that Chell is. Chell's project also seemed to have a growth accelerant in it... Which she attributes to "Daddy's Help", on the project. Nothing like a growth accelerant seemed to be in any of CJ's demonstrated science tests - it seems more likely that Chell was the daughter of the groundskeeper! Furthermore, if Chell was the daughter of Caroline & CJ, I don't think GlaDOS would've just deleted that component from her personality - a living relative would've resulted in increased survival instinct. GlaDOS never seems maternal towards Chell. Even when she's "defending" Chell from Wheatley, she makes sure to keep insulting Chell as she does it.
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As is coding.
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« Reply #123 on: April 22, 2011, 02:44:19 AM » |
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Caroline is CJ's wife, CJ even says it in one of his recordings
When does he say that? All I remember him saying is that she's his assistant. Also, I'm probably not remembering everything, what was the connection between Bring Your Daughter to Work Day in the first game and Chell getting into the facility? Unsure of where I got this, but I faintly remember that event being the day of GLaDOS' activation. If that's the case, then Chell can't be the same Chell that made the potato exhibit since the in-game Chell is obviously older... Hrm.Man, this game really scattered the Portal timeline something fierce, huh?  (not to mention making the previous Aperture Science timeline as show in the first game's ARG completely obsolete)~Josiah |
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« Reply #124 on: April 22, 2011, 02:50:24 AM » |
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When does he say that? IIRC, in the level you get the Whiteout achievement in, but I could be wrong... Go and replay the game to find out.  |
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« Reply #125 on: April 22, 2011, 01:32:21 PM » |
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I'm trying to make coop maps for Portal 2.
You know what the hardest part is?
Getting people for helping test the map.
Please volunteer for recruitment at your local recruitment office. (PM me your Steam name)
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« Reply #126 on: April 22, 2011, 01:34:59 PM » |
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starsrift: Oh, no, I'm fairly sure all he says there is (essentially) "If I die before you can pour me into a computer, I want Carolyne to run the place. She'll say she can't, she's modest like that." -- I think I remember the absence of direct references to her being his wife because that's what I initially assumed and was looking for confirmation too, but never heard any.
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« Reply #127 on: April 22, 2011, 09:53:31 PM » |
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You forgot your spoiler tags there
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« Reply #128 on: April 22, 2011, 09:59:01 PM » |
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Shit! Agh, I really hope I didn't ruin anything for anyone. Fixed now, dunno how I forgot that. Sorry.  ~Josiah |
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« Reply #129 on: April 22, 2011, 10:10:32 PM » |
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So is this significantly better than the first one?
A lot of people are saying it's amazing, but they said that about Portal 1 too, and that was just alright.
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« Reply #130 on: April 22, 2011, 10:22:53 PM » |
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It's leaps and bounds over Portal 1. If you weren't too impressed by that one, who knows if you'll be impressed be this one. All i can say is that it's had a very large improvement.
But i could tell you it's the best game ever made; that doesn't change that it's your $50 to spend. IMO, if you watch the youtube footage and read reviews and you aren't excited afterwards, there's no hope for you.
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« Reply #131 on: April 22, 2011, 10:37:49 PM » |
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It's leaps and bounds over Portal 1. If you weren't too impressed by that one, who knows if you'll be impressed be this one. All i can say is that it's had a very large improvement.
But i could tell you it's the best game ever made; that doesn't change that it's your $50 to spend. IMO, if you watch the youtube footage and read reviews and you aren't excited afterwards, there's no hope for you.
I disagree; in my opinion, Portal 1 was a much more tightly-constructed experience. I couldn't name anything I really disliked about that game, whereas with Portal 2 there is a small list. In terms of variety, atmosphere, and story implications, though, Portal 2 definitely has more than 1. It's also a lot prettier and has some cool sound design going on. ~Josiah |
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« Reply #132 on: April 22, 2011, 11:22:06 PM » |
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Any one find the ending song similar to the title screen bgm to cave story?
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« Reply #133 on: April 23, 2011, 02:29:52 AM » |
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It's a great game. I have finished the single-player yesterday and can say that it is better than the first one. It may not be a long game but again the length is perfect and not short.
I just finished the first chapter of the co-op game and it was so much fun, I'm looking forward to the rest.
Also, the ending is AWESOME.
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« Reply #134 on: April 23, 2011, 03:53:59 AM » |
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So is this significantly better than the first one?
A lot of people are saying it's amazing, but they said that about Portal 1 too, and that was just alright.
If you thought Portal 1 was just alright then I think you'll think this is just alright. If you're not excited by the trailers, then-- yep. That's what it is. |
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