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[John Sandoval]

this game looks 200 percent less shitty when i'm not playing it on a fisher price laptop

60 fps

thats 51 more fps than yesterday

christ

[Trevor Dunbar]

I'll play when I can be an electrical bear

[MindEraser]

AP shen in ranked  We were losing that entire game up until a lucky ace over baron.

Also, he locked in AP shen after I picked soraka and went bot with me. It was terrible. There was a trynd/rumble down there, I was murdered (Shen ulted once and never came back the rest of the game). Still managed less deaths than AP shen though, he was suicidal as hell. And because nobody came bot again, I went ap trollraka.

[Fission Mailed]

How will nerfing the minions promote aggressiveness? It sounds like it will just promote more passivity, because many champs rely on the minions in early levels to protect them, until they can level up their abilities to defend themself on their own. I foresee tower hugging happening a lot more in the future.

[Trevor Dunbar]

How will nerfing the minions promote aggressiveness? It sounds like it will just promote more passivity, because many champs rely on the minions in early levels to protect them, until they can level up their abilities to defend themself on their own. I foresee tower hugging happening a lot more in the future.

I like this though, it ensures you can zone someone away if your champion is good at harassing.

No longer do I have to tolerate some bullcrap pushing strategy just because the minions will completely own me if I try anything aggressive.

I can't count the number of times I've tried to kill someone, only for their minions to allow them to BARELY BARELY win and escape with ~1-5% health.

[GreyGriffin]

How will nerfing the minions promote aggressiveness? It sounds like it will just promote more passivity, because many champs rely on the minions in early levels to protect them, until they can level up their abilities to defend themself on their own. I foresee tower hugging happening a lot more in the future.

While I disagree that the game needs to get more aggressive in general, as I like strategic play, this is kind of important for melee vs. ranged matchups, especially in the very very early game (Level 1-3).  It's virtually impossible for melee and short range Champs to harass without getting pwned by minions without supreme brush control, and forget going in for the kill if the enemy has any kind of escape or CC.

[FRET]

Had a guy complaining that the new jungle sucks earlier. He went 1/7 in lane, so I don't hold his opinion worth anything. I just went 7/2/7 as jungle Noct, so he was probably completely full of shit.

[RCIX]

Had a guy complaining that the new jungle sucks earlier. He went 1/7 in lane, so I don't hold his opinion worth anything. I just went 7/2/7 as jungle Noct, so he was probably completely full of shit.

Well, the people that don't like the jungle have the somewhat legitimate point that even if you get a good positive ratio, gank lots, farm up as much as possible in the jungle, and lane camp after ganks for EXP, you still end up underleveled compared to before.

[allen]

the new jungle does kind of suck. counter-jungling has been made completely obsolete. unless you take one of the buffs, it's a waste of time to invade the jungle. since the camps are worth less, you aren't really getting much of a benefit from invading. and they respawn faster so you really aren't hurting the enemy at all.

good thing is that red is easier to take, most junglers I play can grab it right at level 2. ganking at level 2 is much preferred now, since the time it takes to reach level 4 (when I would normally gank) takes way too long. which is the biggest problem. the camps are worth less, less money and less xp, so you either choose to gank or farm. in the old jungle, you can clear the jungle and have time to gank. and if a gank fails, it's not really a big deal. but in the new jungle, if a gank fails, that's wasted time you could have used to farm and gain experience.

a few plus sides is that it's overall much easier to jungle, and more champions can do it now without needing special runes or anything..so you have more options in the jungle. red is easier to take, and counter jungling hurts you less. I'd still prefer the old jungle, but it's unlikely they will revert such a massive change.

[Samtagonist]

I jungle probably about half the total games I have played.  I can never get as much gold or experience as I would have if I just laned with someone else.  Combined with Volibear being balls to the wall OP, I'm convinced that Riot needs to start giving a shit before I bite the bullet and move on to Dota2. 

[The Monster King]

come play with us samtagonist and talk about how kawaii tidehunter is

[Fission Mailed]

played lol with some tigsource peeps; was fun. i would like to do it again sometime. also, riot is changing the jungle yet again. based on the feedback, which was mostly negative, they're going to make it more like the original.

[RCIX]

played lol with some tigsource peeps; was fun. i would like to do it again sometime. also, riot is changing the jungle yet again. based on the feedback, which was mostly negative, they're going to make it more like the original.

Where did they say that? I remember Morello saying that they plan to up XP/gold amounts some (more) but I thought they decided to overall stick with the system they have here.

[Nillo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wytn-_MSBo

[Glaiel-Gamer]

i'm done with LoL, 2 weeks of unable to play it cause of thanksgiving/business travels, now I have skyward sword and IGF judging to waste my time, plus work. I'm just gonna be done for good (hopefully will have dota 2 by the time I exhaust zelda)

was fun though, totally worth the 10$ I spent on it