next »

[Manuel Magalhães]

That's cool. Are they discounted on the store compared with their physical counterparts?

[BlueSweatshirt]

Yeah except you have to buy proprietary Sony memory sticks and a 32gb one will run you $100 USD. 

So in the end you may be paying more for your downloaded games than physical games.(I hear the downloadables have discounts, however I do not know how much.)
Also depends how large on average the games are. My guess is about 2gb?

Also, any word on the Playstation Suite for Vita thing? Also II: it looks like the Vita isn't even on Sony's developer website yet. What?

[C.A. Sinner]

Yeah except you have to buy proprietary Sony memory sticks and a 32gb one will run you $100 USD.  Huh?

So in the end you may be paying more for your downloaded games than physical games.(I hear the downloadables have discounts, however I do not know how much.)

i have a 16gb one and it was 50 euros which is the price of one game where i live. idk i dont really see like it that because there's also downloadable psn games and stuff. also i wouldnt buy a vita game from psn unless i get a discount. katamari is one im definitely going to download because of the 10 euro promo discount i got from shinobido. and then theres the future possibility of homebrew of course.

i haven't downloaded a vita game from psn yet and the file sizes are nowhere to be found in the descriptions. ill get back to you when i buy a psn card tomorrow though (im cautious about giving out my credit card info on the internet and generally only do it if theres no other way)

@manuel: whether the games are generally cheaper than their retail counterparts is hard to say because retail prices are different for different countries (and sometimes even stores). uncharted is 5 euros cheaper i think (50 in stores, 45 from psn).

[Ishi]

According to this tweet, all games will be downloadable, and "some" (most?) will be physical too.

I've certainly heard that Gravity Rush will be download-only in Europe. I hope they don't take this route with too much stuff; I'd rather not fill my memory card up that quickly. Plus there's obviously no chance of nice art books or whatever like the Japanese physical release had.

Time to get to bed so I can go get my Vita in the morning.

[Will Vale]

if you didn't enjoy the ps1 tenchu games or the original shinobido, proceed with caution.

I'm really grateful you said this - I'd seen some Shinobido reviews and assumed it was combat-with-a-bit-of-stealth. If it's actually a spiritual Tenchu sequel then I'm very keen. I loved both that and Way of the Samurai.

Where does the K2-developed Wrath of Heaven fit into the Tenchu hierarchy? I remember playing and enjoying that quite a bit, but I can't remember if there was some fuss about it because it wasn't by Acquire.

Like you say, they've always been clunky but they are generally awesome. Roll on tomorrow

Will

[C.A. Sinner]

shinobido is pretty much tenchu in all but name, gameplay-wise. acquire doesn't own the rights to tenchu anymore so shinobido is their way of circumventing copyright issues.

never played wrath of heaven but i DID play time of the assassins which was a psp game and also developed by k2. to put it mildly it fucking sucked.

[Will Vale]

Another good one: Vanillaware's latest is going to be on Vita as well as PS3 apparently:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a_g7lUliQU

[BlueSweatshirt]

Those character designs. 

[Trevor Dunbar]

I would consider getting one of these if FromSoftware made an Eternal Ring/Dark Souls/King's Feild type game for it.

Also- Where are some classic turn-based or otherwise RPG games for this thing?


Also- WTF is up with the MEMORY SH'TICKS for this thing? Did I just get warped back to 2001?
Compare:
Normal 32 Gb SD card: $30.

Vita 32 GB memory 'shtick'/card: $100. ONE hundred DOLLARS.

$100 is enough to get two normal games + Stardust(or something) for this thing. ARGHHH.
AND half the games you get for the Vita won't start until you have one? Dear god.

[Richard Kain]

AND half the games you get for the Vita won't start until you have one? Dear god.

Well, from the sound of it, a smaller memory card should be adequate for basic game saves. And if you are in the U.S., you can get a free 4GB stick if you purchase the Vita at Target. But yes, the cost of the proprietary memory cards is more than a little bit exorbitant. Partially, its an attempt to limit piracy on the system, and partially an attempt to appease retail stores.

[Ivsucram]

I bought my with a Value Pack (come with 4GB)

At the beginning I was thinking that 4Gb was enough, but when I entered in the PS Store, I saw some demos and games with more than 1GB, so for sure it will be not enough (only, maybe, if you wanna survive only with physical games).

I bought with Uncharted (Pretty and fun) and Army Corps of Hell (is repetitious but very fun, is the kind of game that you wanna play more and more to break up your last records and complete eat stage faster and faster).

I am looking for Superstar Dust Delta (9,99 on PS Store, and we the bundle option for 14,99), but only in the future. I have to many games (3DS and Vita) to play until there and to many things to do also.

[C.A. Sinner]

and partially an attempt to appease retail stores.

ya i think retail is what's holding them back. remember when sony tried to switch to a download-only platform with the psp go and retailers boycotted it? from the way theyre handling digital distribution and 3g support and what not its pretty clear that they want to establish the vita as a "premium" alternative to smartphone gaming. which is a nice idea but probably isn't going to work if they keep being bullied into compromises like that. this may sound harsh but personally i think digital distribution is the future and the sooner the "brick and mortar" dinosaurs go extinct, the better.

[The Monster King]

I agree that digital distribution is the future but its disappointing to think that you'd need to buy so many memory sticks to hold all your games! what if Sony stopped distributing them, how would you redownload a game you own!!

maybe if they priced those memory sticks reasonably or put a frickin' hard drive on that vita but when have console manufacturers ever affordable peripherals!!

[Richard Kain]

I agree that digital distribution is the future but its disappointing to think that you'd need to buy so many memory sticks to hold all your games! what if Sony stopped distributing them, how would you redownload a game you own!!

As I understand it, the current policy for PSN is that you can re-download your purchased software as many times as you please. As to what happens if PSN goes down permanently? Well, it would be the same as with any other digital-only service...you're pretty much screwed. That's the one case where having physical copies actually makes sense.

Since you can re-download as often as you please, you could still make do with a dinky 4GB card for most games. Just don't expect to be rolling around with more than 2-3 games in your Vita at a time.

[C.A. Sinner]

maybe if they priced those memory sticks reasonably or put a frickin' hard drive on that vita but when have console manufacturers ever affordable peripherals!!

but then retailers would boycott the vita just like they did with the psp go.