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[Samtagonist]

Just hit 100%, despite not actually having 100%.  Still missing the vehicle thefts, challenges, and, uh, I think they're called stongholds?  The ones where you get a phone call and have to defend.  I guess those things don't count.  I'd like to write more about it, but for the first time in a LOOOOOOONG time I feel that the reviews about it are mostly on the mark.

Great game, glad I bought it, can't wait for the DLC so I can go back to it.

[Core Xii]

Pretty sure that invading a skyscraper, massacring everyone inside, and dropping a massive ball on a dude that killed your best friend is both personal AND brutal.

Except crushing the guy was a happy accident, not on purpose; The boss was just trying to get down fast. Killing henchmen by the dozens I don't think counts, that's just the combat basics of the game.

Oh and then there's the whole fact that the entire game is based around the fact that Johnny Gat was murdered and the Boss is so apocalyptically pissed that he is taking out anyone and everyone that stands in his way.

Did we even play the same game? Shaundi was apocalyptically pissed. The boss had not the slightest display of emotion. I don't think he referenced Gat in dialogue once in the whole game. Just watch. The boss' first thought after being taunted by those responsible that Johnny is dead is "We'll need a car. Where are we anyway?". SR2's boss would've been like "Listen you french piece of shit, I'm going to fucking kill you.". You're taking over the city because it's what you do, not because of vengeance.

[i wanna be the guy]

no uh
you take over the city because you want to take down the syndicate, the thing that loren was the head of

you kill loren and the boss gets it pounded into his head that it's not over just because he killed loren.
so the game at that point becomes "lets take down the rest of them to avenge johnny"


and then it kind of changes to a whole thing between killbane and the boss around halfway through

[Dragonmaw]

also did you just ignore every line of dialogue, like where the boss says multiple times throughout the course of the game that what he's doing is for johnny

whatever. you are a dense idiot. no point in discussing this with you when you are this stupid.

[Kramlack]

Picked up the game and was genuinely pleased with it. Took me about 40 hours to 100% the game (trophy wise), but I was dicking around a lot too, so you could probably do it in less. While there's no real replay value once you've done 100% of everything, the time I spent was well worth it. Going into spoilers and summing up the whole game ahead so;

From the start when you jump off an airplane and free fall, meeting Zimos and and being chased by gimps in carts (who explode like vehicles when shot). Going into the zanny Tron level with the megabuster, to the awesome Luchadore fight with Killbane. Through the zombie invasion and Mayor Burt Reynolds, and ending with the Gangsters In Space mission.

The game left a truly awesome taste in my mouth that I wish could have lasted longer.

[Core Xii]

also did you just ignore every line of dialogue, like where the boss says multiple times throughout the course of the game that what he's doing is for johnny

Show me one. 'Cause I sure don't remember any.

[Dragonmaw]

Probably because your memory is shit. There's lines, both in the main story and as throwaway comment lines, that reference Johnny Gat.

I'm not gonna go find them for you because that's overestimating the amount of fucks i give about your incredibly wrong bullshit pedantic assertions. I care just enough to let you know you're being stupid, but not enough to play through the entire main story again just to prove how much of a nitwit you are.

[C.A. Sinner]

whatever. you are a dense idiot. no point in discussing this with you when you are this stupid.

btw: game sounds good from what you guys are posting. i'm not in the mood for gta-type games atm (and have too many other good games to play as well as university work) but when i am, i'll probably get it.

[Kramlack]

Granted I don't agree with Dragonmaw's aggressive attacks, I do agree with what he's saying. There were multiple instances of the protagonist continuing on for the sake of Gat's memory. At the very least to shut Shaundi up who is even more vocal about it.

Like Dragonmaw said, I don't really care to look for them, but I'll see what I can do in the course of five minutes.

[Dragonmaw]

whatever. you are a dense idiot. no point in discussing this with you when you are this stupid.

btw: game sounds good from what you guys are posting. i'm not in the mood for gta-type games atm (and have too many other good games to play as well as university work) but when i am, i'll probably get it.

It's really good. aI'm at about 20 hours and have finished all of the map-marked stuff (activities, collection, stores, etc) and part of the freeform stuff. The main missions can be breezed through in about 9 hours or so, but that's if you ignore everything else.

[i wanna be the guy]

Picked up the game and was genuinely pleased with it. Took me about 40 hours to 100% the game (trophy wise), but I was dicking around a lot too, so you could probably do it in less. While there's no real replay value once you've done 100% of everything, the time I spent was well worth it. Going into spoilers and summing up the whole game ahead so;

From the start when you jump off an airplane and free fall, meeting Zimos and and being chased by gimps in carts (who explode like vehicles when shot). Going into the zanny Tron level with the megabuster, to the awesome Luchadore fight with Killbane. Through the zombie invasion and Mayor Burt Reynolds, and ending with the Gangsters In Space mission.

The game left a truly awesome taste in my mouth that I wish could have lasted longer.

i would just like to tell you that the other ending is infinitely better and just
the perfect way to end the game


i  m  h  o

[Dragonmaw]

idk it's pretty depressing. i wish i could have the best bits of both

[Kramlack]

I didn't like the other ending.

Defeating Killbane just felt anticlimactic and I'd much rather have a cheesy mars mission than fight the military and their new toy.

I won't deny it had an 'epic' feeling, but it wasn't very satisfying.

[i wanna be the guy]

I didn't like the other ending.

Defeating Killbane just felt anticlimactic and I'd much rather have a cheesy mars mission than fight the military and their new toy.

I won't deny it had an 'epic' feeling, but it wasn't very satisfying.

I think that was the whole point though
defeating killbane wasn't supposed to be a climactic moment. The game leads you into thinking it will be, and then you get to the fight. And it's not. At all. It's not even satisfying to the boss who has no answer to pierce's question "was it worth it?" In fact he just sits there near the wreckage of the plane and killbane's corpse, depressed over how he lost even more friends through chasing a selfish goal (killing killbane seemed to be more of a personal goal than something to that he wanted to do for Johnny).

As far as the military part goes, the fight against the military and their ~fancy new toy~ didn't seem to be the big deal here. I think it was more about the Saints going "you know what? We've lost 5 friends and amazing Saints getting to this point and these assholes are STILL trying to kill us? Fuck them!"
So you do; in fact, you fuck them so hard that there's not a single one left. The boss at this point does something that I (and maybe I read into it too far) believe was at least subconsciously as a sort of gift for Johnny(remember his "we traded in our balls for fame" speech at the beginning): They take over the city. And they don't just take over the city and call it good, they turn it into a fucking city-state. They made that place their own fucking country and got the Saints the respect that they hd been fighting for the entire game.

The way I see it, Killbane and the military were cannon fodder. The real point of this ending was to have the Saints finally do what they had been trying to do all along: avenge Johnny