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« Reply #2100 on: July 27, 2012, 06:24:30 PM »

Finally starting to win some games and last hit adequately. Last hitting is WAY harder in DOTA2 than LoL but way more satisfying when you do last hit.

Quelling blade makes it easier if you really need the money quickly

Is it a fair assesment to say quelling blad id DOTA's answer to Doran's blade (good early boost, upgrades into nothing)

I got it on skeleton king and it was very noticable

I've been looking for LoL to DOTA2 guides. So far I havent found anything that goes beyond the painfully obvious points.
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« Reply #2101 on: July 27, 2012, 06:50:31 PM »

Is it a fair assesment to say quelling blad id DOTA's answer to Doran's blade (good early boost, upgrades into nothing)

More like Doran's blade is LoL's answer to quelling blade Smiley (or whatever the dota 1 equivalent is). I don't think doran's blade is limited to creeps though, is it?

I also came from LoL and I'll say that the more you play dota the more you see how much LoL takes from it. I don't just mean main gameplay mechanics. Items and heroes from LoL seem like they were just copy-pasted out of dota.
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« Reply #2102 on: July 27, 2012, 07:03:27 PM »

Items and heroes from LoL seem like they were just copy-pasted out of dota.

That's because they where/are, It's so sad that this isn't common knowledge
It drives me insane all these people who went strait to playing LoL without ever knowing about DotA

I guess the very existence of Dota2 should hopefuly cause LoL players to learn thier history when they play it and say to them selves "Hey, this whole game is a total rip of LoL, but it's a sequel?? maybe this Dota 1 thing existed long before LoL? Hmmm"
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« Reply #2103 on: July 27, 2012, 07:04:18 PM »

heh I noticed that by the 3rd game. I remember saying to myself "Is that Corki?". Saw a few abilities that seemed to have carbon copies in LoL (I'm talking about the more interesting ones, not the standard missle stuff).


I didn't realize quelling blade was creeps only. I'll keep that in mind.
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« Reply #2104 on: July 27, 2012, 07:05:09 PM »

Items and heroes from LoL seem like they were just copy-pasted out of dota.

That's because they where/are, It's so sad that this isn't common knowledge
It drives me insane all these people who went strait to playing LoL without ever knowing about DotA



Doesn't LoL have more of the original DOTA developers on board than DOTA2? I would think in that case it's acceptable.
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« Reply #2105 on: July 27, 2012, 07:07:06 PM »

I guess the very existence of Dota2 should hopefuly cause LoL players to learn thier history when they play it and say to them selves "Hey, this whole game is a total rip of LoL, but it's a sequel?? maybe this Dota 1 thing existed long before LoL? Hmmm"

Of course I know it was based on Dota. I didn't realize how direct some of the elements were.
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« Reply #2106 on: July 27, 2012, 07:09:17 PM »

Items and heroes from LoL seem like they were just copy-pasted out of dota.

That's because they where/are, It's so sad that this isn't common knowledge
It drives me insane all these people who went strait to playing LoL without ever knowing about DotA



Doesn't LoL have more of the original DOTA developers on board than DOTA2? I would think in that case it's acceptable.

Yeah, I'm not saying the LoL developers are evil for trying to monetise Dota, since, as you say, it does have some of the original dota developers on board, so in a way they are just making a stand-alone version of thier game, the thing that gets me is people just not knowing the history
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« Reply #2107 on: July 27, 2012, 07:11:24 PM »

I spent so much time playing DotA when I was younger.. made it impossible to want to play lol or hon. Then fucking Valve ports the game straight up and makes it a million times cooler. derivatives never stood a chance.
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« Reply #2108 on: July 27, 2012, 07:52:41 PM »

heh I noticed that by the 3rd game. I remember saying to myself "Is that Corki?". Saw a few abilities that seemed to have carbon copies in LoL (I'm talking about the more interesting ones, not the standard missle stuff).

Corki actually came before Gyrocopter.
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« Reply #2109 on: July 27, 2012, 08:40:33 PM »

Quelling Blade is mostly an answer to the difficulty of last hitting as melee, since every last hit will likely be harassed by a ranged enemy hero.
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« Reply #2110 on: July 27, 2012, 09:23:07 PM »

heh I noticed that by the 3rd game. I remember saying to myself "Is that Corki?". Saw a few abilities that seemed to have carbon copies in LoL (I'm talking about the more interesting ones, not the standard missle stuff).

Corki actually came before Gyrocopter.

SMH lol Cheesy
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« Reply #2111 on: July 27, 2012, 09:35:07 PM »

I didn't realize quelling blade was creeps only. I'll keep that in mind.
You can also use it to escape Sprout, right? just like you can eat Treant Protector with a tango~
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« Reply #2112 on: July 27, 2012, 10:33:01 PM »

You can also use it to escape Sprout, right? just like you can eat Treant Protector with a tango~

Yeah, it's great to have if someone picks furion
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« Reply #2113 on: July 28, 2012, 02:04:45 AM »

heh I noticed that by the 3rd game. I remember saying to myself "Is that Corki?". Saw a few abilities that seemed to have carbon copies in LoL (I'm talking about the more interesting ones, not the standard missle stuff).

Corki actually came before Gyrocopter.

SMH lol Cheesy

i don't know what 'SMH' means but corki was one of the original champions from the LoL beta, and gyrocopter came out in the 6.68 patch. im not trying to say that dota stole the idea from corki, they were both inspired the by the wc3 dwarven gyrocopter model. or at least i think that's how it happened, i could be completely wrong about this
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« Reply #2114 on: July 28, 2012, 07:57:40 AM »

SMH "Shaking my head"

as in the one thing I find that seems to be blatantly taken from DOTA in LoL turns out to be the other way around. Just my luck Smiley
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