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« Reply #3160 on: August 12, 2014, 04:34:06 AM »

Has anyone here tried the Dota 2 Workshop Tools yet? Any comments on how easy/hard it is to make a custom map in it compared to the WC3 World Editor?
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« Reply #3161 on: August 22, 2014, 11:34:18 PM »

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You've hit no sore spot. I'm just adverse to 'you must be x good to even talk about the subject' elitism. A forum isn't a ferris wheel, someone's not going to go flying from their seat at altitude to bonebreaking injury if they aren't tall enough. Elitism sucks and there's no reason to do it here.

Yes, you do need to be of a certain skill level to have an insightful look on the value of choices. For example, when saying you dont need Bkb on Sven, I said that when your MMR goes up, you can no longer get away with that choice as easily because the environment of play is different.

Think of it as me reaching down and saying "nah man, it doesn't scale up that well when you do get up here because x/y/z." It's a glimpse of the future.

This isn't elitism, its the simple fact that people are making better choices on average in higher MMR ranks of play, opposed to lower. This is why they are in higher MMR. You can't lounge back and read up on how it feels to gain equal knowledge. Niether can you teach a child to swim by giving the kid a book on it, you got to get in the water to have true knowledge.

Tobi Wan is a wonderful caster, best in the biz. His knowledge however is based on years of parroting. He goes far out of his way to learn about why the pros are making certain choices...though he lacks the depth of this knowledge first hand and so isn't truly knowledgeable about the choices. I respect that though.

This isn't to say that you shouldn't contribute, and no one should blow you up for making poor chocies.
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« Reply #3162 on: August 23, 2014, 02:08:21 AM »

i'm 2600 after 15 ranked games and better than everybody because i got a 70% winrate in inhouses, fight me irl
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« Reply #3163 on: August 23, 2014, 03:10:37 AM »

This isn't to say that you shouldn't contribute, and no one should blow you up for making poor choices.

Exactly.
/ And BKB is just not fun, though never a bad choice. Tongue
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« Reply #3164 on: August 23, 2014, 08:45:22 AM »

i'm 2600 after 15 ranked games and better than everybody because i got a 70% winrate in inhouses, fight me irl

I won every game except for 1 and I was put in 2600 MMR as well.
Now I'm about low-mid 3000 range or so, but it initially pissed me off.
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« Reply #3165 on: August 23, 2014, 06:38:05 PM »

the idea that winning on a team of higher elo players makes you good is dumb

youre playing with people who got that elo playing with pub players, of course they can carry your sorry ass, too

 Shrug Shrug Shrug Shrug Shrug

Except that's wrong, I carried most of the games, and the two games I didn't carry I played support.
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« Reply #3166 on: August 23, 2014, 07:20:34 PM »

Roll Eyes

If it's still in match history from a year ago I'd show you.
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« Reply #3167 on: August 23, 2014, 11:04:50 PM »

i'm 2600 after 15 ranked games and better than everybody because i got a 70% winrate in inhouses, fight me irl

I won every game except for 1 and I was put in 2600 MMR as well.
Now I'm about low-mid 3000 range or so, but it initially pissed me off.

Those 10 'Qualifier' games are bogus. Valve are actually getting your skill rating from your existing hidden rating which has been generated from the first ~100 games you had to play in order to enable ranked mode.

Many of my friends played only in parties where they were carried every game, once they moved to ranked they were given the same rank they had in their pub party games of about 4k
However now if they ever play ranked games they lose every single one, because they aren't 4k level on their own.
They just don't play any solo ranked now so that their rank will stay high looking
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« Reply #3168 on: August 24, 2014, 07:19:52 AM »

Solo ranked is the only ranked mode that matters, save if you have a 5 man team and you care about the teams rank.

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« Reply #3169 on: September 05, 2014, 01:12:18 AM »

So, in light of recent events. What is the best counter to Techies? I'm thinking either Phantom Lancer or an Abaddon with Blademail, but I'm open to ideas.
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« Reply #3170 on: September 05, 2014, 01:34:23 AM »

So, in light of recent events. What is the best counter to Techies? I'm thinking either Phantom Lancer or an Abaddon with Blademail, but I'm open to ideas.

blademail doesn't work, the mines are individual units
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« Reply #3171 on: September 05, 2014, 01:44:36 AM »

blademail doesn't work, the mines are individual units
It worked in Dota 1, so if mines no longer reflect damage back to Techies then it is either a bug or an intentional change of mechanics from Dota 1.
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« Reply #3172 on: September 05, 2014, 02:12:13 AM »

blademail doesn't work, the mines are individual units
It worked in Dota 1, so if mines no longer reflect damage back to Techies then it is either a bug or an intentional change of mechanics from Dota 1.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2fi68v/psa_blademail_doesnt_work_vs_techies/

intentional change i think
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« Reply #3173 on: September 10, 2014, 01:08:54 AM »

Competent techies are annoying to play against, at the very least they prolong games too much with turtling.

I am really enjoying the All-Hero challenge though
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« Reply #3174 on: September 23, 2014, 10:46:43 PM »

http://www.dota2.com/rekindlingsoul/
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« Reply #3175 on: September 23, 2014, 11:41:30 PM »

Gallery of map changes:

http://imgur.com/a/JS7mW#0
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« Reply #3176 on: September 24, 2014, 12:07:43 AM »

Sven here to whip you pansies into shape!

Absolutely massive update, can't wait to give it a spin / see it in action.

My favourite changes from a glance:
  • Riki blinkstrike with charges, invis now basic ability
  • Earth Spirit aghs is MASSIVE, essentially +1 stone, allows to enchant and then grip enemies, save allies for 3 sec...
  • New rune! And runes at both locations every 2 minutes.
  • Sven aghs is hilarious! Wanna try it with Troll Warlord Ult.
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« Reply #3177 on: September 24, 2014, 12:18:43 AM »

Rikimaru is literally Akali now. I don't know how to deal with this.

My favorite changes: TP scroll costs 100 gold, fountain area is on elevated terrain and fountain attack range increased by 100
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« Reply #3178 on: September 24, 2014, 12:42:14 AM »

Holy shit I'm only starting to understand the reworked Bloodseeker.

I thought his sustain is gone but it's on his Q now.
He gets a ridiculous AoE silence and pure damage nuke.
His Thirst is basically active ALL THE TIME (the buff part) and got better.
His Ult is not a nuke anymore, but comboes with his new spell.
You can ult someone, use Q on yourself and them to boost its damage by 80%.
You can use your FREE Q to give someone else sustain. You could legit play Bloodseeker support, giving your carry damage, sustain and offering huge teamfight and vision.


Seems like the gimmicky Forcestaff Bloodseeker is legit now?
Like, force staff for the ult, euls to set up your W. So stoked to try this guy.
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« Reply #3179 on: September 27, 2014, 10:58:47 PM »

Wait, I haven't played much dota 2. I played dota 1 a heck of a lot a few years ago. What was the rationale behind changing riki like that? It feels totally off.
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