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[JOBA]

Oh-wow.

Should I kill myself first and then change the attitude, or change the attitude first and then kill myself? In which order exactly?

Key point: Fuck you.

I used an eva reference on you but you didn't get it because you're new here

The point is when you just spew pointless hate speech no one really cares what you have to say, and you come across as really unlikable

If you want to fit in in this community and enjoy to the fullest everything it has to offer, maybe just don't come into the thread and create a strawman in "fucking casuals" and then put yourself above it before getting really combative.

Honest advice, you don't have to take it.

I'm sorry, I find it extremely hard to take any advice from you. Once you throw in an insult(which is the first thing you said unfortunately) you've basically nullified anything you say thereon and the only parts of your post that I see are the bolded ones.

While strongly worded and bluntly put, my original post was chipping in on the voiced concerns about the Ursas "Alphine set" and how the quality of hats and cosmetics might go downhill once the floodgates are open.

I share the sentiment, but I just went one step further and pointed out that this wouldn't have happened if the game wasn't F2P - rather than having to decide that is appropriate in the dota2 universe and what isn't - just take out all of the cruft and focus on what actually matters - making the game even better.

Calling the hats and cosmetics "bullshit" sounds quite harsh, but It's somewhat accurate description since they doesn't affect the gameplay, but generate the whole dressup and trading meta that frequently plagues dota2 chatrooms.

Unfortunately I'm a minority on this cause and swimming against the tide(of casuals) won't get me far. Adding a "competitive mode" for 20-40$ that disables cosmetics seems like a reasonable solution.

F2P is the future for the

For the times they are a-changin.

[Castle]

Ugh

Define a casual

[Capntastic]

I'll buy you one if you really want.

Maybe in return you write a short story about a strange young boy who eats minerals that finds an old dog in the city and become fast friends, before he ultimately learns a life lesson about whichever adult topic you choose.

Did you find the ones going for $5? There are a number of in-game trade channels where people are selling them all the time.

A friend of a friend got in contact with "IceFrog" who hooked me up.

[allen]

oh god is this kid serious

you're arguing and getting upset about cosmetic items for a character in a video game

step back for a moment and think about that.

[JOBA]

Ugh

Define a casual

I don't exactly have a textbook definition, but if you think hats in TF2 or Dota2 is a good idea and adds value, you're a casual in my book.

Hats in TF2 surprisingly did find an odd, but somewhat useful function - playing with friends made it easy to spot them if they had an unique one. Other than that however it made the game and experience worse.

Liking achievements and playing social network games might also serve as a good tell-tale sign.

If you think microtransactions and other monetization schemes outside of 1)one-time-purchase and 2)subscription based, is a good idea and doesn't negatively affect the game experience and immersion you might be one too.

Now those are somewhat arbitrary rules there but you get the gist of it.

[John Sandoval]

is this for real

[Castle]

I'm not sure but I wish it would go away :c

[Nillo]

^I have no idea what's going on above so I'll just reply to this post -

total strawman, nobody said that. an alpine hat for a bear that lives in the mountains, when there are already items for other characters that are similarly "goofy" (eg every tidehunter item) isn't even close to "high heels and a doctor seuss hat." come on

I'm not a fan of the goofy Tidehunter items either, but... the difference between Ursa and Tide is that the latter is already a somewhat silly character (because of his level-up lines and "Kunkka!") so silly items are at least understandable on him. There's nothing about Ursa that suggests he would play dress-up with alpine clothes.

This wouldn't have been such an issue if they hadn't blatantly ignored the community vote. If the Alpine set had been voted highly by other users, I would have accepted it even if I personally disliked it.

Coincidentally, I've noticed that the brony fellow who made the alpine set is also the same person who made the Tidehunter items, which would explain why they're both extraordinarily weird.

[Nillo]

Moving on, Cyborgmatt has just posted the content analysis of the new patch: http://www.cyborgmatt.com/2012/08/dota-2-15th-august/

My favorite part is the new voice lines, especially the ones for Drow Ranger. I did feel like Drow's voiceset wasn't too interesting compared to other characters, so this helps her with that quite a bit.

Also the drum music from the first International is back in the game files, so it seems like the selection drums are returning to increase the excitement for TI2.

[alastair]

I noticed a patch today (probably 16th of August for USA) yet there's no mention of it anywhere.

[Nix]

You mean this one?

[alastair]

no

[Dragonmaw]

^I have no idea what's going on above so I'll just reply to this post -

total strawman, nobody said that. an alpine hat for a bear that lives in the mountains, when there are already items for other characters that are similarly "goofy" (eg every tidehunter item) isn't even close to "high heels and a doctor seuss hat." come on

I'm not a fan of the goofy Tidehunter items either, but... the difference between Ursa and Tide is that the latter is already a somewhat silly character (because of his level-up lines and "Kunkka!") so silly items are at least understandable on him. There's nothing about Ursa that suggests he would play dress-up with alpine clothes.

This wouldn't have been such an issue if they hadn't blatantly ignored the community vote. If the Alpine set had been voted highly by other users, I would have accepted it even if I personally disliked it.

Coincidentally, I've noticed that the brony fellow who made the alpine set is also the same person who made the Tidehunter items, which would explain why they're both extraordinarily weird.

Ursa is kinda weird and goofy too.

Ugh

Define a casual

I don't exactly have a textbook definition, but if you think hats in TF2 or Dota2 is a good idea and adds value, you're a casual in my book.

Hats in TF2 surprisingly did find an odd, but somewhat useful function - playing with friends made it easy to spot them if they had an unique one. Other than that however it made the game and experience worse.

Liking achievements and playing social network games might also serve as a good tell-tale sign.

If you think microtransactions and other monetization schemes outside of 1)one-time-purchase and 2)subscription based, is a good idea and doesn't negatively affect the game experience and immersion you might be one too.

Now those are somewhat arbitrary rules there but you get the gist of it.

My name is joba and I hate being social stick me in a dark room alone where i can yell at people on the internet.

[JOBA]

So voicing an opinion that differs from vocal majority here is not OK.
But personally insulting people with different opinions(like telling them to killthemseves, etc) is OK.

Good to know.

[Dragonmaw]

"You're a casual player if you disagree with me."

"You are unsocial if you disagree with me."

Don't really see the difference but okay. If you wanna be a martyr and a big baby about cosmetic items in a free game then by all means. But don't expect us to be nice to you when you are being such a crybaby and doing some stupid bullshit gamer elitism posturing.