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[Castle]

(The game revolves around the AH and obtaining real world money, not letting you make good items and having fun)

This post is in parentheticals so that if negative comments bother you, you can pretend it doesn't exist

[Capntastic]

Don't think so much of yourself that posting any old dumb thing is having an 'effect' on people.

[Castle]

Your continued attempts to belittle my opinions prove otherwise

e: To clarify, I'm not trying to "effect" people, I'm discussing in a game on a forum in a thread about a game wherein you discuss the game

[Capntastic]

You can't have it both ways.  You can't say that I care "too much" by responding to your posts [ie, 'belittling' them], while also trying to say you're just trying to have a fair discussion.

You should be ashamed for posting obviously dumb + inflammatory things and then pre-emptively going "if you disagree with this just ignore it hehehe".  That's literally the opposite of respecting other people's opinions, much less your own.

You're not even being funny about it, what's the deal?

[Nillo]

1."The only way to get useful items is to buy them in the auction house!"
2. Everything in the AH was put there by players who somehow acquired the items.

How this works, I'll never know.

[Castle]

I guess I'm trying to point out why aspects of this game aren't satisfying or complete, because they weren't designed with the player in mind. Or at least, not with the player as the primary recipient of the game's benefits.

I'm sorry you find my constant negativity so upsetting, but I really have no missive. I'm just griping about the game. Just this game, because it's so terrible for a lot of reasons. I could try to be funny about it but I guess I don't see the appeal.

Seriously when I'm saying "you can ignore me" I mean, "these are my opinions and you don't have to let them bother you". Stop psychoanalyzing all my posts, sometimes a post is just a post.

@Nillo: the only times I've seen my friends actually be excited or happy about the game is when they find an item that's actually good from a drop. it happens, it's just extremely rare. and also more or less pointless but some people like "mindless item grinding: the game"

[Capntastic]

Just scream into a paper bag then

[Castle]

Isn't that what a forum is?

Also this is an independent gaming forum, I feel as though most people are here because of frustrations with games like Diorblo, or just because they like games and fun.

This discussion between us is stupid so I'm going to stop talking about it, now. If I feel the need to mention something about Diablo 3, this is the thread I will continue to post in to do so. Sorry.

[Capntastic]

A forum's a paper bag that can scream back

[IzzyReggie]

that's what i mean by entitlement: people seem to feel entitled to get a game that was never there (that dude's forum post)

It was obviously there, they made a preview video of the game that forum post is asking for? They made a video saying "here, this is what the game will be", and the guy is complaining because that wasn't the game they gave?

I mean yea there is a lot of entitlement posts (I am guilty of it, but that's the past) but the forum post was pretty reasonable in asking why we don't have what the preview showed.

It's the same thing with Spore I guess. A lot of people were upset that they showed all this great stuff and the the final game didn't have it.

It's not like  the forum post was saying "Blizzard why didn't I get to play Kamen Rider and kill Saddam Hussein and why wasn't there a level themed after my house and where is the Draenei class and why doesn't the game let me spawn whatever items I want with whatever stats and why don't I start with +999 everything".

[SirNiko]

The whole thing about releasing Inferno even knowing it might be impossible is okay with me. In a game that the developers expect to regularly update it can always be fixed or improved or just exist as a horrible mode for those who are looking for a sandbox to test and show off their most broken skill combinations, or those who simply have absolutely nothing better to do with their lives.

Kingdom of Loathing released their first multiplayer dungeon with a special reward for defeating the boss in his most powerful state, though they didn't tell anyone at the time and suspected it might actually be impossible to get. It turns out enterprising players discovered a couple of ways to actually beat him through some creative combinations of powerful skills. It came across as clever to me, because it meant a smart player who figured out how to win would get a trophy automatically, and if nobody ever figured it out (or it was impossible) then nobody would feel hurt for the loss.

The only difference is that Blizzard named the challenge and put it up where everyone could see it and expect to do it. If it was poised as an optional challenge, like turning on a bunch of difficulty increasing options at once, I think people would not be upset about it all.

Also, for full disclosure, I haven't played Diablo 3 and have no intention of buying it. I played Diablo 2 and it was kind of fun, but it was just too shallow to hold my interest into the expansion, let alone a second run with a different character. This sounds like more of the same at best.

[Dragonmaw]

(The game revolves around the AH and obtaining real world money, not letting you make good items and having fun)

This post is in parentheticals so that if negative comments bother you, you can pretend it doesn't exist

The whole game is about the RMAH, which is why it's not gonna be launched until halfway through June. What?

(also you couldn't make good items in Diablo 2 except with ages of grinding to get runewords so...)

It was obviously there, they made a preview video of the game that forum post is asking for? They made a video saying "here, this is what the game will be", and the guy is complaining because that wasn't the game they gave?

I mean yea there is a lot of entitlement posts (I am guilty of it, but that's the past) but the forum post was pretty reasonable in asking why we don't have what the preview showed.

The preview showed... well, pretty much what was in the final game. I don't really see anything in there NOT in Diablo 3, except the Enchanter (which was rolled into the Blacksmith). "Random quests and events" are certainly in the game. Weapon elemental properties are in the game. Cool fights are in the game (including the fight shown in the video; it was moved to Act 3).

Diablo 3 has problems. Crafting is useless, gem synthesis is an exercise in frustration, no offline/LAN play, no PvP. But saying that it's purely a vehicle for an auction house that hasn't even been released yet is not only absurd, it's downright disingenuous.

I suppose when something doesn't go exactly the way you want it to, you can always make yourself feel better by characterizing the developers as jackbooted moneygrubbing thugs instead of as artists and developers passionate about their job.

like turning on a bunch of difficulty increasing options at once

If Diablo 3 had a system like the Skulls from Halo 3 and onward I would be pretty much ecstatic.

[Gentleman Owl]

I've been thinking about getting the game, but have heard a lot of negative things about it. For those of you who own Diablo 3, whats your take on the it?

[The Monster King]

I've been thinking about getting the game, but have heard a lot of negative things about it. For those of you who own Diablo 3, whats your take on the it?

did you try reading the topic or is reading not gentlemanly anymore

[Nillo]

I've been thinking about getting the game, but have heard a lot of negative things about it. For those of you who own Diablo 3, whats your take on the it?

Ask yourself this: Did you enjoy Diablo 2? If you did, chances are you'll enjoy Diablo 3. If you didn't, you probably won't.

It's really a "more of the same" kind of deal, and that's fine for those of us who want that. Personally, I'm having a lot of fun just by hunting achievements. It's pretty tough to find all the bonus dungeons since they don't always spawn in their respective areas.