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[Garthy]

I'm glad to hear that KlK's ending was generally well received. I made it about half-way through the series, but I think I'll probably give it another shot in the future. For those that saw the ending, from someone who didn't entirely get into it, do you think it's worth me doing so?

I just started watching Shingeki no Kyojin, 3 eps in and feeling pretty hooked

I recently got into Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan) as well. I've watched a little further though- to the end of the series.

I was due to watch something a little darker as I think I have overdosed a bit on the cutesy side recently (currently also watching Hidamari Sketch with my housemate). I enjoy both overly optimistic cute and happy anime; as well as dark, gritty, crapsack world amime. Which I enjoy more depends on my mood at the time I think.

Also, having watched it, I was able to go back and re-read some of the comments made a few months back in this thread, and they made a lot more sense to me. Also, it made the Shingeki no Moe parody posted funnier.

(Please don't de-spoiler the next bit until you've watched about ten eps in)

I can understand being hooked by the early episodes. The first roughly seven or so had me pretty much hooked, partly because it dealt with some dark themes realistically. For example: People do lose their nerve when they are terrified, and even when they don't, heroism doesn't always end well. The fallout of war can be as devastating as the battles themselves, for example the subsequent food shortage when the population is displaced, averted only by sending out a portion of the population to their deaths under a flimsy pretext, even though it was blatantly obvious that it was all about not being able to support such great numbers unless they somehow miraculously could retake their lost lands.

When Eren died, I was thinking "wow, the/a main character isn't immune to death, which made things all the more tense, because when the characters were in danger, there was actually a genuine chance they could be killed. And then Eren came back, which completely torpedoed that, and made death meaningless. And then a bunch of hypercompetent characters show up and they're killing titans left and right. Suddenly, the show is no longer about humanity's struggle against a superior enemy, it's about the adventures of the titan-killing supersquad and their organic mecha. Argh, DAMMIT!

I still enjoyed it overall though. It wasn't bad- I think even at its lowest point it was average at worst. It was a bit disappointing watching it slide off given its strong opening.

All IMHO.

Also, Grave of the Fireflies. Watch?

[Gimym JIMBERT]

Also, Grave of the Fireflies. Watch?

Are you fucking kidding me? CRY!

[juan]

Also, Grave of the Fireflies. Watch?

If you feel like becoming an emotional wreck for a couple of days i highly recommend it.

[ugabuga]

Am I the only one who thought that Grave of the Fireflies was boring as hell?

[Aik]

Grave of the Fireflies didn't do much for me either. I had high expectations of being upset, but wasn't.

Maybe it's because I watched it the day after I watched Threads and was already dead inside, but yeah, 'boring as hell' puts it nicely. It is nice to see anime that tries to tackle WW2 though.

[Gimym JIMBERT]

It's nice to see just after k on, lucky star or kill la kill

[Conker534]

kon is the best

[Conker534]

not rly i just like it personally

[ANtY]

not rly i just like it personally

but it is the best 

[Garthy]

Thanks all for the thoughts on Grave of the Fireflies, it gives me a better idea what to expect. I had thought it was quite well received in general, but the response seems somewhat mixed. I think I'll watch it eventually, but perhaps not quite as soon as originally planned.

If you feel like becoming an emotional wreck for a couple of days i highly recommend it.

That's pretty-much in line with what I've heard about it.

Also, its really irritating to see people recommend things with what motion they expect the other person to have while watching, it builds unneeded expectations.

I'm probably on the other end of the spectrum. I like to hear what people think of things and how it might make me feel because it gives me a rough idea what to expect, without needing to dig around online for information, filter out the marketing saying everything is the best thing ever, and possibly spoil it for myself in the process. No harm of course if you watch the same thing and form a completely different opinion of it though.

[Mittens]

I just started watching Shingeki no Kyojin, 3 eps in and feeling pretty hooked

I recently got into Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan) as well. I've watched a little further though- to the end of the series.

I was due to watch something a little darker as I think I have overdosed a bit on the cutesy side recently (currently also watching Hidamari Sketch with my housemate). I enjoy both overly optimistic cute and happy anime; as well as dark, gritty, crapsack world amime. Which I enjoy more depends on my mood at the time I think.

Also, having watched it, I was able to go back and re-read some of the comments made a few months back in this thread, and they made a lot more sense to me. Also, it made the Shingeki no Moe parody posted funnier.

(Please don't de-spoiler the next bit until you've watched about ten eps in)

I can understand being hooked by the early episodes. The first roughly seven or so had me pretty much hooked, partly because it dealt with some dark themes realistically. For example: People do lose their nerve when they are terrified, and even when they don't, heroism doesn't always end well. The fallout of war can be as devastating as the battles themselves, for example the subsequent food shortage when the population is displaced, averted only by sending out a portion of the population to their deaths under a flimsy pretext, even though it was blatantly obvious that it was all about not being able to support such great numbers unless they somehow miraculously could retake their lost lands.

When Eren died, I was thinking "wow, the/a main character isn't immune to death, which made things all the more tense, because when the characters were in danger, there was actually a genuine chance they could be killed. And then Eren came back, which completely torpedoed that, and made death meaningless. And then a bunch of hypercompetent characters show up and they're killing titans left and right. Suddenly, the show is no longer about humanity's struggle against a superior enemy, it's about the adventures of the titan-killing supersquad and their organic mecha. Argh, DAMMIT!

I still enjoyed it overall though. It wasn't bad- I think even at its lowest point it was average at worst. It was a bit disappointing watching it slide off given its strong opening.

All IMHO.

Yeah, I actually had similar thoughts now that i've watched to the end of season 1.
Knowing television though, I had every expectation that Eren would return from dead
The Levi character does kind of spoil things the way he trivializes almost all of the suffering in the show. Repeatedly he demonstrates that he's been above any challenge they have so far faced, yet lets it all happen anyway.
That and his cliche sleepy eyed apathetic hero character are really annoying

That said, all the stuff that happens in the forest was still very intense

[Conker534]

i dont even like anime i just like moe shit

[Garthy]

I guess it's specific to things like sadness or drama. If someone tells me that "x" is sad, then its an indirect spoiler.

Generally I prefer to experience a series blind ...

I think I better understand now. When knowing about the mood of the work ahead of time *is* the spoiler, I can see how that would end up ruining the enjoyment of that work.

The Levi character does kind of spoil things the way he trivializes almost all of the suffering in the show. Repeatedly he demonstrates that he's been above any challenge they have so far faced, yet lets it all happen anyway.
That and his cliche sleepy eyed apathetic hero character are really annoying

I wasn't crazy on him as a character either.

He could have been so much more interesting if they'd played up his cleanliness quirk a bit (and not for laughs- picture him obsessively scrubbing away at something with increasing mania, a la Lady Macbeth), or had someone call him on his apathetic outlook (which could turn out to be his version of the thousand-yard stare). I think he was just part of the tone shift of the series at that point.

That said, all the stuff that happens in the forest was still very intense

I enjoyed it too. It really drummed in how dangerous their foe was (and that they were specifically targeting her. I also liked the sequence after where they set up a sting on the suspected female titan in human form, which I didn't realise was a sting until the moment their mark uncharacteristically hesitated. I'd seen her tell (her fighting stance as a titan) earlier, but I couldn't remember who specifically took that stance, so I couldn't put the two clues together. It was obvious on a rewatch of the earlier episodes once I knew what to look for though.

i dont even like anime i just like moe shit

I don't believe the former for a second.

[Gimym JIMBERT]

@conker
symptom of your age really :D

[HöllenKobold]

i dont like cartoons but i like the cartoon drawings in them

[Conker534]

u bakas

[HöllenKobold]

does moe actually appear outside of anime-themed media. i can't actually think of the equivalent in other japanese media, even including idols.

[Conker534]

i hope not

[SundownKid]

(Re: Attack on Titan)

I can understand being hooked by the early episodes. The first roughly seven or so had me pretty much hooked, partly because it dealt with some dark themes realistically. For example: People do lose their nerve when they are terrified, and even when they don't, heroism doesn't always end well. The fallout of war can be as devastating as the battles themselves, for example the subsequent food shortage when the population is displaced, averted only by sending out a portion of the population to their deaths under a flimsy pretext, even though it was blatantly obvious that it was all about not being able to support such great numbers unless they somehow miraculously could retake their lost lands.

When Eren died, I was thinking "wow, the/a main character isn't immune to death, which made things all the more tense, because when the characters were in danger, there was actually a genuine chance they could be killed. And then Eren came back, which completely torpedoed that, and made death meaningless. And then a bunch of hypercompetent characters show up and they're killing titans left and right. Suddenly, the show is no longer about humanity's struggle against a superior enemy, it's about the adventures of the titan-killing supersquad and their organic mecha. Argh, DAMMIT!

I wouldn't say that Eren's transformation marked the point where the main characters became a super squad unable to die. Even with Eren's abilities, the humans are extremely outmatched, the only difference being that before Eren's death they were about 99% likely to get wiped out. And to be honest, it's so grimdark already that if something didn't happen soon after Eren died that turned the tables in some way, people would probably have lost interest as a masochistic exercise in human suffering.

The author really had to throw a few bones to make the series actually interesting and unpredictable with the humans possibly having a chance of success. And given the titans' powers, that would be been impossible without Eren.

[ink.inc]

series would have been more interesting if eren died