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« Reply #4241 on: April 02, 2014, 03:47:56 PM » |
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series would have been more interesting if eren died
It would have become the Game of Thrones of anime
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« Reply #4243 on: April 02, 2014, 04:50:16 PM » |
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series would have been more interesting if eren died
what's the point of killing the main character in the beginning of a serie ? At some point it's stupid and nonsense
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« Reply #4244 on: April 02, 2014, 05:29:24 PM » |
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Depend on how it is handled, having a stake related to that character that allow a looming influence on everything that happen ... kinda like the magicien in magicien of os even if oz wasn't the main character ... It can be a thing /topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvEn_Od4nygwhy this weird me out so much (try to not look at the left)
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« Reply #4245 on: April 02, 2014, 05:34:32 PM » |
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he 'dies' at episode 5 (not really the beginning of the series). it would have reinforced how deadly the titans actually were (madoka and gurren lagann sort of do the same thing, although neither go as far), and it would have been interesting to see mikasa or armin serve as the main character in his stead.
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« Reply #4246 on: April 02, 2014, 05:38:34 PM » |
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something i liked about the eren jaeger character (before the big reveal): he wasn't particularly talented or 'special' (like naruto or luffy or w/e) in any way. he was outclassed by several of his teammates (mikasa etc.) and had to work /really/ hard to get to where he was. and i feel like that was lost when he came back as a supertitan.
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« Reply #4247 on: April 02, 2014, 05:52:46 PM » |
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something i liked about the eren jaeger character (before the big reveal): he wasn't particularly talented or 'special' (like naruto or luffy or w/e) in any way. he was outclassed by several of his teammates (mikasa etc.) and had to work /really/ hard to get to where he was. and i feel like that was lost when he came back as a supertitan.
Warning spoils ! Hummm i won't be too harsh but episode 5 is the beginning to me since the whole thing have more than 20 episodes so the first 5 episodes are the begin stuff Anyway Madoka and gurren have secondary characters , eren is the main character
It's like Killing hannibal in the first episode and trying to sell like three or four seasons without him to the majors , people will just dont understand the point.
Eren was kinda special since he got his thing , injection from his father wich hinted something was up with him (the injection was where he was a child if i remember)
Like naruto wich got something when he was born , in fact those hero have something special but generally the other character don't see that because those heroes are not cool and yes they are less powered in the basics than others but their true power is there and they outmatch others (naruto is in fact ultra powerful , he just don't know how to use that with intelligence)
Now when eren was eaten , the injection probably did the rest ,along his nekketsu spirit (classical of those tv shows)
End spoils Gymim Nice idea he got there The style in 3d kinda works , except the giant green girl wich is a bit weird
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« Reply #4248 on: April 02, 2014, 06:15:43 PM » |
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In the case of madoka, she is not doing a lot except observing stuff, she is not a main in the traditional sense as teh time girl is way more active, madoka is like the ring in lord of the ring, she is not as much a character than she is the plot and the LITERAL deus ex machina.
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« Reply #4249 on: April 02, 2014, 06:33:07 PM » |
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Heavily spoilerised post, please don't reveal unless you're about ten eps in to Attack on Titan. I've added spoilers to quoted posts, my apologies if I've spoilered too much or too little or stuffed up the quoting, especially if I've changed the content of the post I'm quoting. I'm trying to make this post within the confines of a lunch break. The author really had to throw a few bones to make the series actually interesting and unpredictable with the humans possibly having a chance of success. And given the titans' powers, that would be been impossible without Eren. The abnormals could have been that bone. At that point they'd just discovered that one of the titans targeted other titans and not humans. Figuring out how to turn this to their advantage would have made a great story. Turning out to be Eren was a twist, I just don't (personally) think it was a positive development for the story.Of course, that's just my feeling on it! For what it's worth, I still liked the series, I was just a bit disappointed as it had the potential to be something amazing. what's the point of killing the main character in the beginning of a serie ?
At some point it's stupid and nonsense
I'll let TV Tropes take this one: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DecoyProtagonist (sorry, couldn't spoilerise link without it being visible) It makes for an interesting story sometimes. series would have been more interesting if eren died
he 'dies' at episode 5 (not really the beginning of the series). it would have reinforced how deadly the titans actually were (madoka and gurren lagann sort of do the same thing, although neither go as far), and it would have been interesting to see mikasa or armin serve as the main character in his stead. Yes, yes, exactly this! When Eren 'died', I had thought he was basically a false protagonist and I'd just been successfully sucker-punched, and the real protagonist was likely going to be Mikasa. I can also see how Armin would fit. I saw him as as a Judeau or Rickert (Berserk) at the time, but I can see how it'd work. The story would be about their struggles with the titans and how they dealt with the loss of their close friend. And the great thing is you'd never really know if they were going to make it, because the lead character contractual immunity to death had just been broken.
A lot of stories do the death of a close friend a bit more lightly, ie. you're told that as part of the backstory they were really close, etc, etc, etc, and it's sad when the character passes on, etc, but the story wasn't about the friendship and the history, so the sense of loss as a viewer/reader is much lower. The story has far greater impact when it shows all of the things they have been together, and the death occurs, meaning that those times and that closeness will not be had again.
So, when I saw this, with the close friend seemingly being the main character, I was caught completely off-guard, stunned, surprised, and captivated.
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« Reply #4250 on: April 02, 2014, 07:49:23 PM » |
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Haven't had much time for animu lately but I did watch Princess Mononoke the other night, that was pretty nice.
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« Reply #4251 on: April 03, 2014, 01:28:00 AM » |
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They needed to change shit up but I don't think Eren going super titan mode was necessary and while I think killing off a main character as important as Eren would have been pretty cool, I think it would have been way too early for him to actually die. They should have made Eren's titan form not as powerful or something. Something to weaken the titan mode so that it would only tip the balance of power slightly. If SnK were to be something like GoT and kill off important characters it would actually need more interesting characters, apart from the main trio, the other characters were interesting but not central enough to the plot to have too much focus put on them. this is just my opinion of course and maybe it doesn't even make sense idk
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« Reply #4252 on: April 03, 2014, 01:49:51 AM » |
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The thing is, it's already established how deadly and dangerous the titans are. The death of Eren's mom is the place where people realize that, the death of Eren himself wasn't really necessary. Through the training, we already realize how fearsome they are, the only thing it would accomplish is shock value (which it accomplishes anyway, and doubly so when Eren becomes a Titan).
And really, neither Mikasa or Armin are MC-material. In Gurren Lagann, Simon had a chance to change his personality, but those two seem pretty clear cut.
Eren's titan mode does tip the power balance slightly - it's clear that he is far less skilled than the other titan agents at controlling it, and has no incredible special abilities (combat wise, at least). Heck, he is vulnerable to more than a few titans at a time.
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« Reply #4253 on: April 03, 2014, 03:15:49 AM » |
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Heavily spoilerised post, please don't reveal unless you're about ten eps in to Attack on Titan. I've added spoilers to quoted posts, my apologies if I've spoilered too much or too little or stuffed up the quoting, especially if I've changed the content of the post I'm quoting. I'm trying to make this post within the confines of a lunch break. The author really had to throw a few bones to make the series actually interesting and unpredictable with the humans possibly having a chance of success. And given the titans' powers, that would be been impossible without Eren. The abnormals could have been that bone. At that point they'd just discovered that one of the titans targeted other titans and not humans. Figuring out how to turn this to their advantage would have made a great story. Turning out to be Eren was a twist, I just don't (personally) think it was a positive development for the story.Of course, that's just my feeling on it! For what it's worth, I still liked the series, I was just a bit disappointed as it had the potential to be something amazing. what's the point of killing the main character in the beginning of a serie ?
At some point it's stupid and nonsense
I'll let TV Tropes take this one: tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DecoyProtagonist (sorry, couldn't spoilerise link without it being visible) It makes for an interesting story sometimes. series would have been more interesting if eren died
he 'dies' at episode 5 (not really the beginning of the series). it would have reinforced how deadly the titans actually were (madoka and gurren lagann sort of do the same thing, although neither go as far), and it would have been interesting to see mikasa or armin serve as the main character in his stead. Yes, yes, exactly this! When Eren 'died', I had thought he was basically a false protagonist and I'd just been successfully sucker-punched, and the real protagonist was likely going to be Mikasa. I can also see how Armin would fit. I saw him as as a Judeau or Rickert (Berserk) at the time, but I can see how it'd work. The story would be about their struggles with the titans and how they dealt with the loss of their close friend. And the great thing is you'd never really know if they were going to make it, because the lead character contractual immunity to death had just been broken.
A lot of stories do the death of a close friend a bit more lightly, ie. you're told that as part of the backstory they were really close, etc, etc, etc, and it's sad when the character passes on, etc, but the story wasn't about the friendship and the history, so the sense of loss as a viewer/reader is much lower. The story has far greater impact when it shows all of the things they have been together, and the death occurs, meaning that those times and that closeness will not be had again.
So, when I saw this, with the close friend seemingly being the main character, I was caught completely off-guard, stunned, surprised, and captivated.
AHHHHHHH the fake hero thing Okay Sondoval and you were talking about that ? okay then I was misguided then , my bad !! Hehh yeah , that trope is really good , i love it But since i saw the manga a bit before i knew it would not happen You can somewhat check danganropa anime (it's not the decoy thing but it's quite close !! those who saw it will understand my statement)
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« Reply #4254 on: April 03, 2014, 07:21:19 AM » |
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what if instead, they killed all the titans early on
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« Reply #4255 on: April 03, 2014, 08:13:36 AM » |
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« Reply #4256 on: April 03, 2014, 08:22:01 AM » |
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Eren's titan mode does tip the power balance slightly - it's clear that he is far less skilled than the other titan agents at controlling it, and has no incredible special abilities (combat wise, at least). Heck, he is vulnerable to more than a few titans at a time.
manga spoiler wait till the show gets to the part in the manga where eren gets the power to mind control other titans
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« Reply #4257 on: April 03, 2014, 08:22:26 AM » |
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what if instead, they killed all the titans early on
They could have , also killed all humans in the first episode and then filming nature for the rest of seasons. that would be the most epic animation of all time
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« Reply #4258 on: April 03, 2014, 09:19:26 AM » |
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what if instead, they killed all the titans early on
They could have , also killed all humans in the first episode and then filming nature WITH TITANS for the rest of seasons. that would be the most epic animation of all time Fixed 
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« Reply #4259 on: April 03, 2014, 09:30:16 AM » |
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what if instead, they killed all the titans early on
They could have , also killed all humans in the first episode and then filming nature WITH TITANS for the rest of seasons. that would be the most epic animation of all time Fixed  Narrated by David Attenborough.
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