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« Reply #2205 on: December 25, 2012, 12:20:23 PM »

What the hell I just watch? Goldorak (mazinger Z) + gundam + evangelion = WTF
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« Reply #2206 on: December 25, 2012, 12:25:46 PM »

What would make you think Shaft "wrap" things in moe as a trick?

Because you're not allowed to make anime unless you pander to quasipedophiles. There are very few anime I like, and they are all devoid of fanservice and moeshit, bar a few moments of exception. FLCL has fanservice but it's so tongue-in-cheek it's hard to mind.
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« Reply #2207 on: December 25, 2012, 12:36:35 PM »

Because you're not allowed to make anime unless you pander to quasipedophiles. There are very few anime I like, and they are all devoid of fanservice and moeshit, bar a few moments of exception. FLCL has fanservice but it's so tongue-in-cheek it's hard to mind.

But it's a mistake to think that because you don't like something then the creators are being forced by commercial pressure to do it. It shouldn't be hard to believe there are creators who have found commercial success who actually like the style they use. In the case of Shaft and Madoka, it's pretty clear that they like Ume Aoki and her style.
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« Reply #2208 on: December 25, 2012, 12:51:32 PM »

What the hell I just watch? Goldorak (mazinger Z) + gundam + evangelion = WTF

Super Robot Wars, the best srpg series

the secret is that its actually a mediocre srpg but since there are licensed giant robots in it  it is still super enjoyable

Gunleon is more of an homage to GaoGaiGar, but yes his final super attack has that OBVIOUS EVANGELION REFERENCE yes

it still manages to be its own robot and its one of the coolest around
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« Reply #2209 on: December 25, 2012, 01:03:41 PM »

But it's a mistake to think that because you don't like something then the creators are being forced by commercial pressure to do it. It shouldn't be hard to believe there are creators who have found commercial success who actually like the style they use. In the case of Shaft and Madoka, it's pretty clear that they like Ume Aoki and her style.

Not style, substance. Madoka is a critique of the mahou shoujo genre, because that's what gets funded and what gets sales. It's not like Shaft couldn't come up with a story about literally anything else, it's just the way Anime works that the majority of customers are only interested in girls and slice of life and cute shit and not... storytelling.

You are right in that I am turned off from the moe style (and I didn't particularly like Madoka's stylistic direction aside from the Witch's Mazes) But my complaint about the industry is a substantive one. I'm tired of the same stories over and over and over. I crave creativity in my stories! It'd be like if only one genre of game was ever getting produced. Minecraft clones. Forever. Because taking a risk with anything else would be suicide unless you had the funding yourself. That is not conducive to gaming as a whole, just as contemporary anime being mainly moeshit and sliceoflife isn't conducive to anime as whole.
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« Reply #2210 on: December 25, 2012, 01:07:02 PM »

cue john and a shitty gif of one of the k on girls doing something and all nerds in the universe being like omg kawai moe moe horse dick
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« Reply #2211 on: December 25, 2012, 01:19:04 PM »

I loled.

But seriously, embrace Yotsubato and let it wash away all cynicism for a short period of time.
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« Reply #2212 on: December 25, 2012, 01:28:09 PM »

i google imaged it and the 4chan little girl appeared

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« Reply #2213 on: December 25, 2012, 01:43:09 PM »

http://mangafox.me/manga/yotsubato/

No moeshit. Just charming innocence.

Written by the Azumanga Author.


Seriously, its fucking funny and it makes you happy, basically the polar opposite of Oyasumi Punpun.
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« Reply #2214 on: December 25, 2012, 01:43:57 PM »

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No moeshit. Just charming innocence.

i dont think you understand what people are complaining about

riddle me this, nerdlord:

would you still watch it if it was a little boy
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« Reply #2215 on: December 25, 2012, 01:57:59 PM »

yes
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« Reply #2216 on: December 25, 2012, 02:02:21 PM »

why didnt they make it a little boy, what do you think
how come there are 99 million little girl things and like 1 little boy "OMG INNOCENCE SO KAWAII" thing
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« Reply #2217 on: December 25, 2012, 03:04:48 PM »

Not to rain on your parade, but Zatch Bell, Dragonball and Beelzebub are all manga from the last decade(s) prominently featuring little boy peen.

I don't care for Yotsuba because it's slice-of-life and conflictless and boring. Manga isn't really the problem. A mangaka can make whatever they want fairly easily. Anime requires resources and time, and it would appear the only way to get that is to make the same old shit in a different package.
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« Reply #2218 on: December 25, 2012, 03:46:48 PM »

Not style, substance. Madoka is a critique of the mahou shoujo genre, because that's what gets funded and what gets sales.
the irony when most of its plot threads and character types are derived from a played-straight tokusatsu show which is basically the male equivalent of mahou shoujo.

though that show itself riffs from battle royale

so i guess it's all good (shrug)


though tbh, it isn't much of a critique either. it's good but any psychological analysis stems from rules inherent to madoka itself. they aren't permutations of the genre itself. so it's much not of a valuable critique.

it's good tho.
or decent rather.

the writing's mostly only competent about its structure, besides how terrible the beginning is.
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« Reply #2219 on: December 25, 2012, 04:11:31 PM »

Not to rain on your parade, but Zatch Bell, Dragonball and Beelzebub are all manga from the last decade(s) prominently featuring little boy peen.


you misunderstand, nerdlord

i dont know anything about zatch bell besides very melon but i can tell you none of the little boy peen is presented as something OMG ADORABLE LITTLE BOYS ARE SO INNOCENT AND JUST LIKE SEXUALIZED PETS its more like "ahhaha, dicks"

3 nude baby boys versus one million loli shit
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