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« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2012, 07:19:56 AM »

Do you get this info only from tv or mostly from the internet?
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2012, 07:23:10 AM »

I'm not sure where people get the idea that he wants gay marriage to be illegal from. Based on everything I've ever heard him say, he believes that governments shouldn't play a role in marriage, thus making it legal.
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2012, 11:58:06 AM »

As usual, America gets a shitty slew of candidates to choose from, none that truly represent the ideals of the average American or the average of the ideal American.

I would vote for this guy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_FvgQ1csE
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2012, 12:11:37 PM »

i hate ron paul because hes trendy among interweb nerds.   >B)
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2012, 12:16:02 PM »

I'm not sure where people get the idea that he wants gay marriage to be illegal from. Based on everything I've ever heard him say, he believes that governments shouldn't play a role in marriage, thus making it legal.

IIRC he doesn't believe the Federal government should play a role in marriage, but has no problem with States making their own laws regarding gay marriage.

It doesn't matter though, he'll never become president. There's no use in talking about him.
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2012, 12:36:09 PM »

THIS FORUM... MUST DIE!!!

 Huh?

Srsly, I dont understand why you hate the guy. As far as I see it, all the major "problems" you give him are either completely irrelevant or something that, as far as I know, are completely unimportant when put into consideration that the whole country is about to become debt slaves. Srsly. Turn of the TV. Theres nothing good on it.
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2012, 01:42:48 PM »

If we all looked to TV for information on this we would all be ignorant froods on the subject.(for those of us that actually care, at least.)

And it's simple: We disagree with his ethics.
They're not irrelevant. He, to a majority's extent, would represent the wants of the American people as President. Do I want a homophobic representing me? No. However for many of us it isn't so simple, because like mentioned there are many things he believes in that we also believe in. You'll find it's pretty much impossible to come across an entirely satisfactory candidate. It's a matter of compromise and picking your poison, for the most part.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2012, 01:49:38 PM »

I'm not sure where people get the idea that he wants gay marriage to be illegal from. Based on everything I've ever heard him say, he believes that governments shouldn't play a role in marriage, thus making it legal.
IIRC he doesn't believe the Federal government should play a role in marriage, but has no problem with States making their own laws regarding gay marriage.
He doesn't think any government should play a role in marriage, but he also believes that states are allowed to outlaw gay marriage via the 10th amendment- just like how he doesn't believe in government involvement in health care, but he accepts that it's allowed at a state level.
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« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2012, 01:56:02 PM »

I think this firmly cements antymattar's position as a troll.
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« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2012, 02:09:29 PM »

i knew his avatar looked suspicious
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« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2012, 02:30:41 PM »

Hey guys, I like guns and I saw that Sarah Palin likes to fly helicopters and shoot polar bears like a total amazon! Can't y'all who like in the US liek lobby to get her to run for president and vote for her? I think she is soo cool so listen to me and don't take in other media for they only feed the sheeple, so c'mon do me a favour since I don't live in the US and vote for her, kthxbye!
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« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2012, 02:31:19 PM »

I think this firmly cements antymattar's position as a troll.

Or a really really really really really dum kid who will look back on these posts in two years and say "why"
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« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2012, 02:36:27 PM »

Hey guys, I like guns and I saw that Sarah Palin likes to fly helicopters and shoot polar bears like a total amazon! Can't y'all who like in the US liek lobby to get her to run for president and vote for her? I think she is soo cool so listen to me and don't take in other media for they only feed the sheeple, so c'mon do me a favour since I don't live in the US and vote for her, kthxbye!
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« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2012, 03:15:15 PM »

Or a really really really really really dum kid who will look back on these posts in two years and say "why"
He's pretty much like this on the Bay12 Forums, too.

Saying that the media you use to gain information is not only superior to alternate media, but that the alternative is horrible and mind controlling is a little more than silly. Personally, Ron Paul would be a pleasant choice if I was a fan of total democracy, but I'm not. I don't really trust each state, much less each individual voter, to act in their best interests. It's a quick way to shut out gay marriage, decent/free healthcare and such.
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« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2012, 03:28:33 PM »

It's funny, we have a very similar guy here in Poland: a libertarian, free-market, low-tax non-intrusive, independent country idea, with legal drugs, strong military and little bureaucracy. And he also is against gay marriage and abortion.

Ron Paul isn't for or against drugs, gay marriage, or abortion (at least not as a Presidential candidate). He simply believes that the federal government should not have anything to do with them. He doesn't care what state governments do (as long as they abide by the Constitution).
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