Glaiel-Gamer
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« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2012, 03:45:02 PM » |
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IIRC he doesn't believe the Federal government should play a role in marriage, but has no problem with States making their own laws regarding gay marriage.
problem with that is here: "Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State." an interpretation of that can be used to say "if you're married in one state the rest have to consider you married too" but if states are refusing to acknowledge same sex marriages from other states, the federal government pretty much HAS to get involved here IMO government shouldn't recognize ANY marriage, call it a civil union for everyone, problem solved. Feel free to call yourself married if you want to. |
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« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2012, 03:52:56 PM » |
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IMO government shouldn't recognize ANY marriage, call it a civil union for everyone, problem solved. Feel free to call yourself married if you want to.
Not going to happen in a million years. |
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« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2012, 04:19:43 PM » |
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IMO government shouldn't recognize ANY marriage, call it a civil union for everyone, problem solved. Feel free to call yourself married if you want to.
Not going to happen in a million years. But it would be a nice solution. Maybe we'll see a big shift in government once all the baby boomers die off. |
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« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2012, 04:32:58 PM » |
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in my country gay marriage is even more problematic. we've had it for about two years now but it's still not equivalent to straight marriage in terms of rights. it's pretty fucking stupid too because the majority of the population is actually pro gay marriage (or at least wouldn't mind) but there's a conservative minority constantly lobbying against it.
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« Reply #34 on: January 08, 2012, 04:38:26 PM » |
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Libertarians are fucking hilarious. Ron Paul is even more hilarious.
The fact of the matter is, Obama is going to get elected again and hopefully use his lame duck status to not pander to the conservatives, or Mitt Romney will be president and pretend the US is a corporation. Or Santorum will be president and I'll google his name every day and laugh.
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« Reply #35 on: January 08, 2012, 04:42:10 PM » |
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IMO government shouldn't recognize ANY marriage, call it a civil union for everyone, problem solved. Feel free to call yourself married if you want to.
Not going to happen in a million years. Iz like 'dat already in Sweden. Too bad the country is throwing away all the other things it had going for it, but keeping on-topic all partnerships are the same contract in the eyes of the Swedish law, regardless what people want to term them. |
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« Reply #36 on: January 08, 2012, 04:53:14 PM » |
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Iz like 'dat already in Sweden. Too bad the country is throwing away all the other things it had going for it, but keeping on-topic all partnerships are the same contract in the eyes of the Swedish law, regardless what people want to term them.
Yeah but what I'm saying is it's not going to happen in the US because from what I know about American politics the Christian "sacred rite of marriage" is still a big deal there, unlike in Europe (and esp. Scandinavia) which is dominated by atheism. |
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Glaiel-Gamer
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« Reply #37 on: January 08, 2012, 04:56:22 PM » |
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Libertarians are fucking hilarious. Ron Paul is even more hilarious.
The fact of the matter is, Obama is going to get elected again and hopefully use his lame duck status to not pander to the conservatives, or Mitt Romney will be president and pretend the US is a corporation. Or Santorum will be president and I'll google his name every day and laugh cry.
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« Reply #38 on: January 08, 2012, 04:59:08 PM » |
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Libertarians are fucking hilarious. Ron Paul is even more hilarious.
The fact of the matter is, Obama is going to get elected again and hopefully use his lame duck status to not pander to the conservatives, or Mitt Romney will be president and pretend the US is a corporation. Or Santorum will be president and I'll google his name every day and laugh.
Santorum will never be president. He won't win any primaries either. All the news attention he's getting is bullshit and ridiculous. |
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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2012, 05:01:42 PM » |
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I think this firmly cements antymattar's position as a troll.
Or a really really really really really dum kid who will look back on these posts in two years and say "why" kid? And no. Im not a troll. Just the next gen of philosopher. |
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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2012, 05:17:31 PM » |
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I think this firmly cements antymattar's position as a troll.
Or a really really really really really dum kid who will look back on these posts in two years and say "why" kid? And no. Im not a troll. Just the next gen of philosopher. In a world where the economy has turned into recession, a new person enters that will devalue philosophy into intellectual dearth. This is the story of self-delusion and inflated ego in a time where everyone can say his piece, and where the biggest claims mask the simplest minds. |
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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2012, 05:42:07 PM » |
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Antybaner, no offense, but you're still a kid.
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« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2012, 06:12:09 PM » |
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Santorum will never be president. He won't win any primaries either. All the news attention he's getting is bullshit and ridiculous.
He lost the Iowa caucus by eight votes. It's either Romney or him. If you think Gingrich, Paul or Perry has any semblance of a chance I wish I knew as little about politics as you, because seriously, why do I care about politics? EDIT: And antybaner, you're only slightly more of a philosopher than Ayn Rand. |
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« Reply #43 on: January 08, 2012, 06:39:10 PM » |
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IMO government shouldn't recognize ANY marriage, call it a civil union for everyone, problem solved. Feel free to call yourself married if you want to.
this is actually RP's position. i don't know what people are getting the idea that he believes marriage should be left up to the states. that is not his position: his position is what glaiel said, that the gov should not be involved in marriage at all, either the fed or the state, and that it should be up to a person and his religion anyway, i'm happy RP is doing better this time around than in 2008, but like allen said he still has no chance. but i do like that he brings up issues that both parties want to ignore, as described by glen greenwald here: http://www.salon.com/2011/12/31/progressives_and_the_ron_paul_fallacies/singleton/ |
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« Reply #44 on: January 08, 2012, 06:40:38 PM » |
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I think some sources would be nice here.
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