How can lack of skill be in a way of creativeness?
I never said that! What I said is that skill can help realize what you're trying to create. Which is quite obvious, no?
Interesting enough, music we call "jazz" is called jazz because it has certain characteristics and specific "cliches" which totally come from the particular skills and conventions of learning certain type of things. [...]
I was talking about jazz improvisation in particular, which, granted, often moves within the borders of motives and clichés. Those help people connect to your music. If you don't want that, suit yourself. In any case a nice jazz solo is a good example of highly creative work that makes good
use of technique.
I believe that people who are technically oriented, are more easily lost in "closed" mode. This is very apparent within jazz musicians, contemporary musicians, engineers, coders...
Why do you insist talking about this?
The reason for those people allegedly being lost in "closed" mode is not their technical aptitude. Sure, I've seen and heard a lot of people who are technically proficient while not doing very creative work (and thank heavens these guys and gals exist!), but there are just as many, if not more, people who don't bother with learning their craft and are thus not able to create anything of much value.
Your view on creativity is one-sided, and clearly proven wrong by oh-so-many examples of past and present creative minds. Your posts discourage learning about your tools if you want to produce something unique, while I say there's more than just way to skin a cat.
Also, you didn't get Cleese. "Open" and "closed" are not judgmental descriptions. There's nothing wrong with working in "closed" mode if you're trying to get something done: just because some won't like the outcome doesn't give it less value. If you're stuck with learning instead of doing, you're clearly doing something wrong from the very start, and actually working
in neither mode.
And this is also why many very skilled musicians used a lot drugs and alcohol. It helps one to get into open mode, actually it is best way for almost any person.
I was so sure this would come up sooner or later. (sigh)
I won't even comment on this much. Just this one thing: please don't continue talking about this if you don't really know what you are talking about. You can't just connect drug use to creativity in two short sentences without taking all the psychological and sociological factors into account. Let's please
skip this, we'd get off-topic very quickly.