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« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2012, 08:55:14 AM »

Point is to not talk about emotions experienced, it is too subjective. What would be nice, is to share thoughts and experiences about music making through artistic, emotional process instead of talking about music theory and technicalities. But then again this is - like you said - internet discussion and so just fjuck it.
You mean like these threads on Gamedev.net, for example?

The Creative Process
Listen to your song with a fresh perspective?
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« Reply #31 on: February 26, 2012, 09:06:54 AM »

On the topic of 'programming vs. music' as to which is more technical;

I don't think one medium is more technical than the other, but one must keep in mind that both media require a totally different form of technique. Programming requires the ability to create complex systems of code that interact with one another in such a way that something cool happens. It is mostly a question of achieving a level of complexity and maintaining oversight nonetheless.

Music, however, is different. Playing the piano, for example, you need very precise hand-eye coordination and developed fingers to hit the right keys. But music is heavy on the mind too. Piano players often play at least two melodies at the same time, different melodies, sometimes with different rhythmic patterns too. Memorizing, let alone playing this kind of pieces is extremely challenging to the mind. Not to mention the realm of improvisation, where you have to hit the right notes before you even know what the song is supposed to sound like.
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« Reply #32 on: February 26, 2012, 09:06:58 AM »

You mean like these threads on Gamedev.net, for example?

The Creative Process
Listen to your song with a fresh perspective?

Yes like that.
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« Reply #33 on: February 26, 2012, 09:08:00 AM »

Gah, I need to write more coherently.
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« Reply #34 on: February 26, 2012, 09:11:08 AM »

Music, however, is different. Playing the piano, for example, you need very precise hand-eye coordination and developed fingers to hit the right keys. But music is heavy on the mind too. Piano players often play at least two melodies at the same time, different melodies, sometimes with different rhythmic patterns too. Memorizing, let alone playing this kind of pieces is extremely challenging to the mind. Not to mention the realm of improvisation, where you have to hit the right notes before you even know what the song is supposed to sound like.

You can make a monkey to play piano, but its not very easy to make it code working java demo. My original point was, that playing piano for example allows much more direct artistic input than compared to coding. In some cases, direct artistic input leads into great art. Like some expressionistic paintings. Like music (playing instrument), painting has also very direct creator input. There is some expressionistic music I guess.

(Damn I mixed expresso and impresison again)
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« Reply #35 on: February 26, 2012, 09:18:08 AM »

Gah, I need to write more coherently.

I understood that perfectly, and now I'm seeing where you're coming from too, 1982. Although philosophically resonating with Rush, Boston, and in my crankier days Linkin Park (90% of that one is in singing/percussion), I really don't know if I'm one to talk with about that. For one thing, I don't actually compose, so...
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« Reply #36 on: February 26, 2012, 01:09:07 PM »

1982...  I don't get why you don't just make another thread about the emotional side of music composition, or I don't know, actually contribute something in this thread about the emotional side of it, instead of whining like a spoiled brat that two of the major things said in this thread before you looked at it aren't taking you to a higher plane of consciousness.

Just...stop trying to derail a thread that has no real point other than to talk about music composition.  You're being stupid.
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« Reply #37 on: February 26, 2012, 03:05:37 PM »

Just...stop trying to derail a thread that has no real point other than to talk about music composition.  You're being stupid.

And you're being J. R. Hill.
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« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2012, 03:21:00 PM »

Just...stop trying to derail a thread that has no real point other than to talk about music composition.  You're being stupid.

And you're being J. R. Hill.
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To be frank, I wouldn't put it in the same strong words but I was thinking kinda the same as J.R. - how about some actual contribution to the topic instead of smart remarks?
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« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2012, 03:35:52 PM »

Just...stop trying to derail a thread that has no real point other than to talk about music composition.  You're being stupid.

And you're being J. R. Hill.
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To be frank, I wouldn't put it in the same strong words but I was thinking kinda the same as J.R. - how about some actual contribution to the topic instead of smart remarks?

I cant, you guys are way too technical.
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« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2012, 04:06:04 PM »

I am raging so hard at 1982's posts itt. I've been typing out long, detailed posts and deleting them for almost an hour now.
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« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2012, 04:24:56 PM »

I am raging so hard at 1982's posts itt. I've been typing out long, detailed posts and deleting them for almost an hour now.
Don't bother, he's obviously either trolling or just being a dick.

To take your mind off that, here's funk legend Bootsy Collins explaining in great detail how he composes bass lines:
GET FUNKY
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« Reply #42 on: February 26, 2012, 04:41:41 PM »

Let this be the end of the technical discussion.
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« Reply #43 on: February 26, 2012, 05:06:05 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: February 26, 2012, 05:32:47 PM »

I am raging so hard at 1982's posts itt. I've been typing out long, detailed posts and deleting them for almost an hour now.

Congrats to you then  Facepalm

I really don't get whats the need for RAGE here?
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