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« on: February 07, 2012, 07:21:10 PM »

I used to be so into Pokemon. The cards were so much fun to collect, the games were as addictive as crack, the TV show was great, the monsters were amazing, etc.

Now it feels like the creators are just grasping at straws. They started at 150 Pokemon and it felt like each had been molded for weeks. Then they doubled the count, and while they weren't as great as the original, they still had some nice ones like Feraligatr and such. Past there, and especially now, it just feel like they're grasping at straws. Just compare the two cards below.





The new ones feel like new reiterations of old classics, with no thought put into them at all. The cards feel cheaper now, the holographic effect ont he cards isn't as cool as it used to be, I just wish they'd either work harder to make Pokemon good again, or quit before they dig the franchise into the ground.
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 07:27:13 PM »

The show petered out after the first season, when the creator left and everything became more "normal".

As for the games, I would be more interested in different twists on the formula then the same game with more 'mons. I'm not opposed to the idea, but they are basically using it as a crutch now. There is no sign that they won't dig the franchise into the ground.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 07:30:35 PM »

BLUFGAR CLUB OSHAWOTT AND EAT FOR DINNER.

GENERATION FIVE IS MORE SUCK THAN IN PAST.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 07:32:00 PM »

WoTC doesn't run the cards any more, so I can't assure the quality of those. But Nintendo still makes okay Pokemon games (I really liked B/W myself), though I'll agree that they definitely need some innovation. And the Pokemon's actual design is fine, there are always a few copycat Pokemon in each set but for the most part they manage to achieve variation (this shows moreso when looking at base stats and movesets).
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 07:33:49 PM »

I take an active dislike to the designs of the new Pokemon.
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 07:34:47 PM »

BLUFGAR FOUND BROTHER. MAYBE BLUFGAR LAST NAME SANDOVAL?
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 07:45:43 PM »

I like the new designs.

Honestly for me the first and second generations still feel the best, but I think that's because those generations' corresponding games are what held the original "wow" factor for me when playing Pokemon, so those designs really stuck in my head and I came to love them.

I think it's more of a problem with the series not really going anywhere, and being continually disappointed with the lack of the game designers' effort in pushing forward the franchise.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 07:59:23 PM »

I like the new designs.

There's a friggin' Frigidaire you can use to fight Egyptian sarcophagi. If that fails, said Frigidaire can turn into a flailing fan and blow away the competition.

The R/S/E generation was the best one I played since it didn't have too much of the "Scribble blindfolded, add some eyes, slam a keyboard and add some vowels for some names."
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 09:25:53 PM »

I felt like the first generation made the most sense for monster design. A Lizard with a fire tail, okay, that's fine.

The second generation had some hiccups but still made sense, like, a dancing pedophile tree, alright, I can believe it.

Third gen started going off the deep end with their designs and oh god, what the fuck is this?

I still pretend generation four doesn't even exist...

I'll give credit to generation five for trying to go back a bit, but some of the designs were still pretty eh, I'd rank it in between generation two and three, in terms of how good the designs are.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 09:32:53 PM »

I HONESTLY THINK GEN 1 HAD REALLY BORING DESIGNS



a lizard with a flaming tail
a rat
a bigger rat
an electric rat
A BIGGER ELECTRIC RAT
a snake
a different snake
a dragon
a fart cloud
a pile of puke


future generations dont exactly make any sense but it bothers me when people say gen 1 had ORIGINAL AND UNIQUE DESIGNS because no they didnt it was literally just "okay lets take this animal and do a thing"
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 09:36:58 PM »

I gotta say, I tried to get back into the games and stuck with Soul Silver for a while, but honestly I think it's me that's really changed. I just don't have the patience to grind and train for the next gym, especially when there's such a disparity between the gym leaders and the lower-leveled Pokemon in the surrounding areas. I never battled against real people as a kid, and doing it now I get my ass handed to me by people who know all of the ins and outs of EV training (which seems to this outsider even more tedious than straight-up grinding). I made it all the way to fight Red, and I've more or less lost all motivation to go on. The game's just no fun anymore.

Quitting Soul Silver made me realize I never liked the Pokemon games, I just liked the idea of it. I love the world, and the creatures (screw the haters, I like a lot of the Generation V designs) and the insanity of the early TV episodes and manga spinoffs. My favorite Pokemon game is Pokemon Snap, which I swear to God needs at the very least some form of sequel if not outright franchise of its own. I'd love to see Nintendo branch out more with the franchise with different ways to enjoy and explore the Pokemon universe, but so far it's been limited to the Ranger series and modifications of existing games (Tetris, Mystery Dungeon, etc.).
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 09:37:09 PM »

they are making a pokemon nobunagas ambition crossover

i cant wait for nobunagas ambition to suddenly be either (awful) or (incredibly popular)

either way, what the fuck? (i love nobunaga's ambition woo woo)
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 09:48:49 PM »

@Swarms: Wasn't sure if this was at me. I agree, generation one was really generic and I'm not saying it was original by any means, but that was a lot of what I liked about it.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 09:57:31 PM »

NOPE!!!! your post reminded me that i wanted to Say Those Words is all
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 10:18:27 PM »

I don't think the kids at the daycare I work at even know what a Pokemon is anymore.
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