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[C.A. Sinner]

Painted World is one of my fave levels in the game. I think atmospherically it has more of a Demon's Souls vibe than the rest of Dark Souls.

[InfiniteStateMachine]

Yeah that's a great looking world.


I still remember thinking I beat the game when I finished Sen's fortress. That next scene was such an awesome surprise.

[C.A. Sinner]

So yeah guys, any tips/personal experiences on how to beat 4 Kings on NG+ with a hybrid melee/sorcery build? I'm trying to get the bad ending so I can't do any other lord soul bosses before them.

[Tumetsu]

What do you mean by bad ending?  You don't need to give Lord vessel to Kaathe to get the dark lord ending.  Just exit the Kiln after beating Gwyn.

Only difference with giving Lord Vessel to Kaathe instead of Frampt is that you can join into Darkwraiths and get the truth about the story. Though you can't split titanite with Kaathe or feed him items.

[C.A. Sinner]

Whoops 

I want to give the vessel to kaathe anyway cuz i wanna see all the npcs i missed in normal mode.

[Tumetsu]

IIRC there isn't any extra NPCs if you do that, except well, Kaathe himself. But do it anyway, I prefer Kaathe over Frampt too   As for your original question, no tips; couldn't beat him on my NG+ and got stuck. Have you checked wiki already?

Other than that depending on what makes them hard for your build, try Iron flesh and Cloranthy ring. For me the problem was that I couldn't make enough damage with my BK great sword, but according to that wiki pyromancy might have been help.

[InfiniteStateMachine]

yeah I hear the 4k on NG+ is the hardest fight. Just level HP like crazy? not sure..

I always just healspam them.


True story from joining the dark wraiths you say? I think I have a new goal for my next game

[C.A. Sinner]

IIRC there isn't any extra NPCs if you do that, except well, Kaathe himself.

Yeah I know that. What I'm saying is it's part of my quest to encounter all the NPCs Dark Souls. There are a few others I missed like Quelana and Onionbro's sister (killed the golem by pushing it off the platform lol).

Anyway the problem with the 4K is that I have to constantly dodge their attacks to not get killed and often die before I can even get a hit in. And when I do I just don't do enough damage. Even Crystal Soul Spear isn't that good against them.

EDIT: checked the wiki and apparently they even have a special strategy for people like me lol. not sure how i missed that. so equipping the heaviest armor and using iron flesh it is then huh? will try out tomorrow and see if it works.

[InfiniteStateMachine]

oh yeah, heavy slow armor is a must. If you have that gradual heal spell working to a decent degree it helps too.

I'm guessing you already have kindled the hell out the fire next to 4k too right?

[baconman]

Painted World is one of my fave levels in the game. I think atmospherically it has more of a Demon's Souls vibe than the rest of Dark Souls.

That's because it's a direct homage to Boletaria Castle. Down to the Phalanx miniboss, even.

RRR, gotta get back into this. Currently trudging my way through Tomb of the Giants...

[Blademasterbobo]

i pretty much stopped playing after the spider boss, cuz fuck going back through the swamp. i wish there was an elevator or something there.

[C.A. Sinner]

takes a couple minutes if you go the valley of drakes route

btw i just tried the 4 kings tanking strategy and got the 2nd one down to half of his hp at least. i kinda feel like i need to get my VIT up (only 22 atm). did the depths in the meantime just for kicks (and humanity)

[Derek]

Just started playing this yesterday. Goddamn it's a nightmare (in a good way).

I just beat that metal boar by poking him for 5 damage and then hiding over and over again.

[Blademasterbobo]

you can also stab him in the ass if you're crafty, or just chuck firebombs at him from the ledge / shoot him with a bow.

[Dragonmaw]

The boar is easiest if you lure him into the fire near the staircase to the ledges above him. He'll take a bunch of damage and keep getting hitstunned.