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« Reply #45 on: June 20, 2012, 03:45:02 PM »

The game seems to run fine for me.

First my Great Hero died falling out of a tree into a deep cave.  Then my Great Hero died fighting a small lizard. Then he died fighting a lizard as he was falling into a deep cave.

I kind of like the explosive growth of the trees when the world generates.

I had quite a few worlds generate with a layer of dirt over an empty cave. It was amusing at first but eventually making a mad dash across unstable ground only to wind up dead on the floor of a cave got old. Would it be possible to start playing after the Hero's surroundings are stable?

I like that the creatures consist of different components. I look forward to finding shadow/riddle creatures or light/mechanical creatures.

I'm not entirely clear on what some of your sprites are. On the other hand, the benefit of having the descriptive tooltip is that the player will see what the tooltip describes. For example, if the tooltip said the second sprite was a rabbit, I'd see it as a rabbit.

That shouldn't stop you from seeking constructive criticism, I just can't offer anything more valuable since I'm not much of an artist.

...I plan to introduce a lot of complex mechanics. Many creatures. If I start draw graphics with animations for they all, it will be hard for me.

I'll happily play a game that sacrifices sprite animation in favor of simulating the world.  Dwarf Fortress and Sim Earth both make me very happy.
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« Reply #46 on: June 21, 2012, 02:59:44 AM »

First my Great Hero died falling out of a tree into a deep cave.  Then my Great Hero died fighting a small lizard. Then he died fighting a lizard as he was falling into a deep cave.
Good start! Evil Smiley

Would it be possible to start playing after the Hero's surroundings are stable?
The Hero always can run away from falling dirt. And do not forget, the hero may dig and put wooden blocks. So, he always can survive.

Thanks for detailed gameplay comment! I will think about you game experience.

It doesn't mean I've done my other games for getting solely for getting popularity/money (they are extras), I wanted to do something that other people would enjoy and that I would enjoy making too. But if I woke up in an universe where I had infinite amounts of money, skills or time I would have created my dream games over these other games I've done.
Yes, that is exactly, what I mean.

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Meantime, I did a throwing bombs, barrels of powder and explosives. This is all for second game world. I want to different gameplay in the second map, so, I go away from first world's mechanics.

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« Reply #47 on: June 22, 2012, 09:43:19 PM »

Gentlemen, here I have a question. This game will consist of many worlds. The question is this:
a) whether to do in each world its own set of features, or
b) make a full set of features in any world?

If a), we obtain a more unique worlds, but with little features done in each.
If b), we obtain many feature-saturated worlds, but with similar gameplay in each of them.

What do you think about this?
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« Reply #48 on: June 23, 2012, 12:52:04 AM »

Or you could go down the Minecraft route of having multiple worlds that can each be easily travelled to and all interact with each other?
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« Reply #49 on: June 23, 2012, 02:24:37 AM »

Wow this looks really good, keep it up! What tech is it based on ? I usually dont download games, is there a youtube for this ?
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« Reply #50 on: June 23, 2012, 02:37:33 AM »

Or you could go down the Minecraft route of having multiple worlds that can each be easily travelled to and all interact with each other?
Minecraft way - is part b) of my previous post. Three worlds with similar mechanics in each.
Thanks you for your opinion!

By the way, Minecraft have some gameplay failures. Minecraft is too easy! Remember, what was more interesting: to search an iron ore, or diamonds? And was interesting to craft a wooden pick? Or again and again stone pick crafting? I am a 33 years dude, and I feel self like a baby, playing Minecraft. Lips Sealed

So, this project I want to make with a hardcore gameplay.

Wow this looks really good, keep it up! What tech is it based on ? I usually dont download games, is there a youtube for this ?
Thanks! No, I do not recorded a video yet. This game is based on my software engine, written on c++. I polish this engine several years, and now it mostly free from bugs. And, more importantly, I know my tech very well!
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« Reply #51 on: June 23, 2012, 03:01:09 AM »

Gentlemen, here I have a question. This game will consist of many worlds. The question is this:
a) whether to do in each world its own set of features, or
b) make a full set of features in any world?

If a), we obtain a more unique worlds, but with little features done in each.
If b), we obtain many feature-saturated worlds, but with similar gameplay in each of them.

What do you think about this?
Well, what kind of worlds did you have in mind?

You probably want some basic consistency across different worlds, for two reasons: to not make the player feel like they switch games when they cross worlds (like a poor racing level in what's supposed to be a shooter), and to make what is different stand out more.

For example: if you would make one world the plain one, another world of caverns with no sky, and the last a sky worlds with floating platforms where you have to watch out not to fall to your death, that already would immediatly make all of them very different. Tweak the physics a little bit per world (less gravity in the sky world? Other lighting physics in the cave world). I just took these from minecraft by the way (the Nether and that abandoned sky realm).

So I think option (b) would be most intuitive.

Of course, you could also go the multiverse route, and maybe even try to auto-generate tweaks to the physics systems if you go hopping from universe to universe.
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« Reply #52 on: June 23, 2012, 04:45:18 AM »

JobLeonard, the reason of basic consistency across worlds also are numerous features.

Look, for example, I have ten gameplay features.
If ten features in each of ten worlds (variant b) - the gameplay is reach, various, complex. But if in each of ten worlds only one gameplay feature (variant a), the gameplay will empty, primitive and dull.

And you arguments for variant b. Yes, I also hope, that another generation of the landscape and some enemies and physics tuning - is the better choice.

Thanks!
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« Reply #53 on: June 23, 2012, 03:17:56 PM »

WHY HAVE YOU HIDDEN THIS FROM ME.
Also: It seems you need a name for this.
What about 'Wilderness'?
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« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2012, 01:15:50 AM »

Ashkin, yes, this game have no name yet. But I think, the name is not so important. Player will playing in game, not in game name. Smiley

But, the name selection is not so easy. What will the Google shows, if we search "Wilderness"? Millions of sites, products and some already existed games.
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« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2012, 01:19:27 AM »

Ashkin, yes, this game have no name yet. But I think, the name is not so important. Player will playing in game, not in game name. Smiley

But, the name selection is not so easy. What will the Google shows, if we search "Wilderness"? Millions of sites, products and some already existed games.

You're right that it wouldn't really be very googleable. But I still think the word Wilderness might fit in well somewhere, because that seems to be what this is about- striking out into the wilderness and enjoying its beauty.
However, I think that you should take the time and think up your own name for the game. Inspiration will arrive eventually.
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« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2012, 01:22:13 AM »


By the way, Minecraft have some gameplay failures. Minecraft is too easy! Remember, what was more interesting: to search an iron ore, or diamonds? And was interesting to craft a wooden pick? Or again and again stone pick crafting? I am a 33 years dude, and I feel self like a baby, playing Minecraft. Lips Sealed

So, this project I want to make with a hardcore gameplay.

Thanks! No, I do not recorded a video yet. This game is based on my software engine, written on c++. I polish this engine several years, and now it mostly free from bugs. And, more importantly, I know my tech very well!

Game looks fantastic so far, I like your style and I like the way you think. Really interested to see how you approach the game's design - looks like it's going to be a unique experience.  Wink Hand Thumbs Up Right


googleable

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« Reply #57 on: June 24, 2012, 01:42:06 AM »

Ashkin, yes, you're right. Later I will think about the game name. But now I prefer to add gameplay features: this is much more interesting, I want to say!
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Claw, hi! That's cool to see you in my devlog! By the way, underground light calculation in my game I did, inspired by you old screenshot in the "screenshot saturday" thread.
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This weekend I made an enemy, that throws bombs. Battle with him are usually brings down part of the near cave.

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« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2012, 08:10:09 AM »

Polished creatures pics. I'll be glad to hear your tips!

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« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2012, 08:26:24 AM »

I have to keep up with this - it's looking awesome! The sprites aren't bad, but I think they're too dark. Try upping the value on some of them.

Anyway, the game's looking stupendous from what I've seen!
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