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[Eigen]

How is that an option when all players are going to try and see both end results.

[Angrymatter]

How is that an option when all players are going to try and see both end results.

Sad...

[C.A. Sinner]

i think it's a pretty transparent attempt to generate "controversy" esp seeing as no one really gave a shit about tomb raider for like the last 7 years. it sucks how their tactic is already working because everyone's talking about the rape scene.

yes it's good that games try to tackle "taboo" subjects or whatever but it's also important how and for what reasons it's done.

[theRayDog]

The producer said he doesn't think players want to "project themselves" onto the character of Lara Croft, but rather act as a guide and "protect" her.

is what worries me.  The goal of this sort of game should be to immerse you more into the character rather than less.  You shouldn't be using your manly gaming skills to protect the defenseless character.  You should feel like you ARE the woman beset by danger, and AS the woman gather the strength to combat it.

I agree, that was the most concerning thing I read in the article. I'm not worried about the capability of a Tomb Raider game to handle a rape scene in an adult way but if the game is intended to provide that "human being pushed to the limit, forced into extreme responses" feeling then why on earth wouldn't you make the player want to project as much as possible onto the character?

i think it's a pretty transparent attempt to generate "controversy" esp seeing as no one really gave a shit about tomb raider for like the last 7 years. it sucks how their tactic is already working because everyone's talking about the rape scene.

yes it's good that games try to tackle "taboo" subjects or whatever but it's also important how and for what reasons it's done.

Yes, it is very important how and why it is done. The "how" in this case has yet to be seen and the "why" was already explained in a reasonable way by the devs, but most people here are just assuming they are being insincere in their reasoning. It seems very transparent to you, but I'm not going to shoot down an attempt at maturity before I even see the results.

[forwardresent]

I think it's a neat thing to have in the back story, but it's been blown a bit out of proportion. At the most her shirt will get slightly torn in the process of fending off the attacker. It looks like a decent game, and I quite liked Tomb Raider up until Chronicles. The remake was decent too.

If this whole thing was merely a cut scene or mentioned in a loading screen text, would it be fine? Is it the interactive element that seems so bad? You're not the rapist, you're Lara Croft, she fights and struggles. I think removing the player from that experience would be a bad thing. I don't think this is going to be done distastefully.

It may be more shock element oriented, this will get attention, which Tomb Raider really needs.

[Malky]

I'm not worried about the capability of a Tomb Raider game to handle a rape scene in an adult way

Really?  That thought petrifies me.

[Angrymatter]

i think it's a pretty transparent attempt to generate "controversy" esp seeing as no one really gave a shit about tomb raider for like the last 7 years. it sucks how their tactic is already working because everyone's talking about the rape scene.

How can you blame me!? I WANT TO KNOW! It's not like it's my fault. True, I would like for nintendo to finally bury zelda and mario and metroid but I would also like to see an apocalyptic steampunk hyrule with a grown up link and a rough princes. I would like there to be an end to things, but what if there isnt? I would like it if people stopped asking for half life 3 and realized that it can't be reanimated, but it would be cool if they did it. It all depends on how well the final product is.

[theRayDog]

I'm not worried about the capability of a Tomb Raider game to handle a rape scene in an adult way

Really?  That thought petrifies me.

It's one thing to doubt the capability of the developers, but an entirely different thing to doubt the potential of a game. Remember what V says, "We are told to remember the idea, not the man, because a man can fail."

[Malky]

I'm not worried about the capability of a Tomb Raider game to handle a rape scene in an adult way

Really?  That thought petrifies me.

It's one thing to doubt the capability of the developers, but an entirely different thing to doubt the potential of a game. Remember what V says, "We are told to remember the idea, not the man, because a man can fail."

Well, okay.  Obviously if the Tomb Raider reboot handles it well, my fears will turn out to be unjustified.  But a rape scene is waaay outside the lines of what mainstream gaming has, traditionally, handled well.

I can't say they won't get it right, but it does seem to be an issue of, ah, scope.

[theRayDog]

I won't blame them for trying, as many people seem eager to do. I will blame them for failing though. 

[Malky]

I won't blame them for trying, as many people seem eager to do. I will blame them for failing though. 

Blaming them won't even be enough.  This is the kind of move that, if not handled incredibly well, will backfire.  Maybe even on the whole industry.

[Angrymatter]

I won't blame them for trying, as many people seem eager to do. I will blame them for failing though. 

Let's not erect the problem any longer shall we? We're already bearing a great load as it is, what with all the QTE rumours. I mean, this might give birth to terrible memes. If they DO fail however, this would be an impenetrable argument about violence in video games. If they succeed, then this is a sign that truly people have hardened enough for more "mature" scenarios and stories. At least, that's just my position at the moment.

 

[Capntastic]

"Jokes"

[Alec S.]

Welp, looks like they've now started denying that the scene is attempted rape, or even sexual assault.  So there goes handling the subject maturely out the window.

[Angrymatter]

Welp, looks like they've now started denying that the scene is attempted rape, or even sexual assault.  So there goes handling the subject maturely out the window.