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Garthy
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« Reply #54 on: July 06, 2012, 04:35:56 PM » |
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It seems that I have been burned by my ability somewhat, and subsequently by SirNiko. Given what he has chosen to say, it seems my best chance at this point is to be completely open about things and hope that there is a Guardian-like role out there to protect me in the night, and that enough people believe me to avoid killing me in the day.
Some of what SirNiko tells you is true. Yes, I contacted him today, and told him that I was an ORA agent. I *am*, to the best of my knowledge, an ORA agent. I told him, in great length and detail, of my seer-like abiltiies. Every detail, every limitation, how the ability is used, that I chose him, why I chose him, the precise words used, my exact title, everything. I invited him to quiz me down to the smallest detail, and offered him the choice of directing my abilities this night. He was skeptical, and I said he was right to be. I still shared what I knew with him, and made it clear that even if he can't trust me yet, I'll prove it in time, and that I trust him.
Why the great trust in him? Because I used my ability on him last night. He showed up as a "Loyal Citizen". My aim was to prove to him, as fast as possible, that my ability was genuine.
Prove it Garthy, you say. That is difficult to do, especially after one day. However, I did set up a little surprise of my own for down the track. My aim was to spring this after a few days, if I ever needed to prove my ability. However, I've been burned, so I need to share it now. Look at my first post this day- page four of the city records. Second paragraph. Second sentence. Every second word. The sentence is: "It seems that in crowe's case the party can either...". Every second word: "Seems In Case...". First letter of each sentence: "S I C". The first two (spot the theme?) letters uniquely identify a city resident. "SI" equals "SirNiko" (check the names, two letters uniquely identify everyone). "C" for "(Loyal) Citizen". This is the result from my ability. I can't prove to you that my intentions were good when I set it up this way, but I hope that you can believe me that I was trying to seed my posts with information to later prove my identity.
As for being a "Seer", this is the first half-truth that SirNiko uses. My ability is Seer-like, but I am not a Seer. I am an "Inquisitor". I hope this means something, to someone out there. I am also an "agent of ORA". SirNiko definitely knows this- I told him all of this in detail. In his post, he is trying to muddy the waters somewhat by turning my claim into that of my being a true Seer. I am not a true Seer- I do not get roles, only allegiences.
I will now share with you my last words with SirNiko, after he told me that he didn't believe me. These are my exact words, up until "END" (thank INANI for recording everything for our safety!):
This is not good news.
I can say one thing: You are incorrect about me lying. Everything I have told you is the truth, to the best of my knowledge, right down to the specific role, my target, the exact words, everything. That may be the important thing: "to the best of my knowledge". And here it gets interesting.
(Now, excuse me as I step completely out-of-character for a moment. There are roles for which the player is told that they are a Seer, but they actually aren't. They are told they have an ability, usually with a boolean yes/no response, but the result they actually get is based on something else. Some examples are roles that always return innocent, or guilty, or always the reverse, and so forth. When I contacted you I knew these were possibilities, but they aren't always used in games because, frankly, they are crappy roles. Worrying about the possibility of being such a role tends to cripple Seers, so I figured I'd proceed as if I could trust the information given by the GM. However, given the Orwellian theme, I could see paranoid roles like this being included, but I don't want to jump to such conclusions quite yet.)
Now, do I think it likely that this is the case? Not too likely, but possible. Given your response, I'd say this is the *fourth* most likely occurrence.
The most likely thing, in my opinion, is that your immunity to "night actions" doesn't include Seer-style abilities at all. ie. that you are simply incorrect about being immune to being Seer'd, and possibly jumping to the wrong conclusion. Your immunity would then suggest that there are those among us who can perform night actions, which suggests a vigilante or serial killer, who *can't* hurt you.
The second most likely thing is that you're testing me in some way to see if I change my story. All I can say on that one is that everything I have told you is the truth as far as I know it.
The third most likely thing, again in my opinion, is that you are a rebel/subversive that is simply immune to my ability. Heck, that may be as a direct consequence of the ability you told me about! Now, the odds of stumbling onto a Seer-immune rebel/subversive are pretty low, especially factoring in the chance of inclusion, and I am happy to take that chance. Why? Because if the role existed, and I was unfortunate enough to stumble upon it, I don't think anybody would hold it against me that I trusted someone my own ability told me was innocent. In this case, I'm dead this evening, there's no way you could suffer a Seer to live for one moment longer than necessary. This would of course mean that you are lying, but it won't matter after this evening.
The fourth most likely thing is that I have been misled as to my actual role and/or ability, as detailed above. Maybe I'm not actually an ORA agent at all. In that case, I have no way of knowing what I *should* be doing, since I cannot determine what I am. It is possibly testable by using my own ability on myself I guess, but in this case, can I even trust the result? There is simply no course of action I could take that I know to be correct if I can't trust the role I have been given.
The sixth most likely thing (skipping the fifth for now) is that instead of *me* being misinformed about my role, it is you. However, the first possibility is far more likely.
The fifth- every single one of us has faulty information.
I am going to proceed as if the first case applies, whilst considering the fourth as a possibility. In any case, continuing to trust you is the best course of action for every scenario except the third, and I'm sure I'll be forgiven if this is the case. So I'll trust you, feed information to you, and so forth. Eventually I'll be able to establish the truth of what I've said or determine that I have a fake ability.
Of course, there's the option that I'm lying to you, but I'm sure you can understand why I'd rule that one out, and I understand why you need to consider it.
I hope that this is all just a test.
(Out-of-character: I am, to the best of my knowledge, an ORA agent. If you're actually a rebel/subversive, this would make us enemies, one of your prime targets, and would mean that my ability is either faulty or I have been incredibly unlucky. In this case, please do the merciful thing and just kill me off.)
In any case, *if* you want to decide my target this evening, let me know, and I'll direct my ability onto that target. I'm not sure what else I can offer at this point.
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I swear that this is exactly what I sent him, word for word.
Now, the second-last bit was to see if he'd take the option of an easy kill, which he seems to have done. I'm guessing he might not have assumed I'd just reveal absolutely everything about myself publicly. I hadn't planned to, in case he was just misguided, but with him taking the option of trying to get me killed, as well as muddy my "Seer" claim, I suspect he has specific reason to want me dead. Read my third-most likely outcome in my message above. This is now what I suspect to be the case. This means that the subversives/rebels/Freedom's Road operatives know everything about me and my ability, so I may as well be completely public now.
This evening, I vote for SirNiko. Do not assume Ashkin to be a foe just because he voted for me, it could very well have been misguided. Now, consider carefully who you want to vote for. Ashkin too, if you are not a subversive, please reconsider your vote. As mentioned, the first vote gets additional weight, and as SirNiko has cast it, someone else needs to get two or three votes (deoending on Ashkin) for me to survive.
In the extremely unlikely event that I survive a lynching and night action, I may as well post my nightly results publicly after this point.
Let me close with part of a message that he sent me:
I have good news and bad news.
The bad news is that I know you are lying about being the seer. My role, unfortunately for you, is immunity to all night actions by securing myself in a foolproof hideaway after sunset. Had you really used a seer role on me it would have failed. I suspect you never were a seer in the first place.
The good news is, I'm still of the opinion we're on the same side.
(removed) You're either a citizen or a rebel, and I think either way you and I are on the same side. (removed)
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Note that SirNiko is suggesting the possibility that both he and I are rebels. I would ask you to consider why he would say this.
I have removed two bits of the message. SirNiko can fill them in if he likes. Of course, in doing so I think we'd all be interested in whether you consider the rest of the message to be genuine.
Oh, and his final message. I'm sure you'll love this: "Unfortunately for you, you've stumbled precisely upon a person you should not have. Maybe in another life we'll be allies, but in this life we are not. Make sure to bid farewell to iNANNY before you go. Goodbye, Garthy."
Now, my vote: SirNiko
I will answer any questions anyone has, publicly or privately.
Choose wisely everyone.
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