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[fish]

am i the only non-coder here?

i could program a microwave to save my life.
black magic, all of it!

i cant be the only one, can i?

[Guert]

No you're not!
I'm a fake coder! If I must, I can do it but don't ask me to code anything elaborated

[rey-o]

i guess all of us lvl 1 forum guys are non coders:-)

maybe someday, but for now i'm content to just make pretty pictures:-)

[fish]

you're level 0.
but you do have 23 posts.
23.
nice.

not being able to code is often the bane of my existence.
id be such a fucking unstopable powerhouse.

but eh, i can do pretty much everything else.

[rey-o]

lol, i didnt even notice that...

man, now i gotta go and slay some rats to get more xp

[Guert]

Fish, I here ya load and clear!
Once in a while I think to myself: "Hey start to code again!" I boot up my editor, type in two lines and give up... I just plain don't like coding! :D

Luckyly, I'm coding a bit in simple languages so I can develop quick prototypes without much hassle.

[fish]

well, atleats you can code something.
i really dont know anything about code.
i dont underatdn it.
i fear it.
it hates me.
etc etc.

[shinygerbil]

I'm a bone fide Non-Coder, although I plan to leave that elite club this summer with the help of a book or two.

(Well, I say non-coder, the last program I made was a commandline brute force Su Doku solver, just to see if it was even possible for me to understand C. Commandline input of a Su Doku puzzle sucks.)

[sega]

I haven't tried to learn a proper programming language yet, but I have tried learning torquescript.  I could do some simple stuff, but eventually, I'd hit a brick wall.  Then after a week of tearing that wall down, I found another brick wall pressed up against it.  Wash, rinse, repeat.

I think my main problem is that all these scripting languages are based on C in formatting.  At least with torquescript, even though TGB was made for people who can't code, all tutorials and documentation assume you already know how to format your code.  I've learned a lot through observation, but once it gets to the fancier stuff, like cycling through objects under a point, adding an object at that object's location, then taking control of the original objects found when cycling... well, let's just say the variables don't end up working like I thought they would.  I have to learn these formatting and syntax rules in detail before I can get deeper into scripting.

I do plan on going after it again in a couple of months, after I finish my current game (of which a friend is programming).  I'm able to prototype my simpler ideas, but I have a lot more designs backed up that I'd love to prototype.

When I was 12, I programmed 6 games or so in BASIC on my Commodore 64.  They were mostly text based, but I did make a UFO catcher game.  I'd love to see them again, but my father threw out my computer.  I just wish I had those disks at least.  They probably wouldn't still have their data anyway, huh.

[fish]

when i was 12 id just make myself myst-clones with hypercard on my mac classic.
dad tought me just enough so i could link stuff together and trigger special events and stuff like that.

[ravuya]

I made stuff in HyperCard on my old Mac too, with just button links and such. Then I learned to program much later and life was good.

I wish I had known more about programming when I had HyperCard; HyperTalk is actually a really advanced scripting language and you could make some pretty advanced games in it.

[Chris Whitman]

Coding is fundamentally extremely easy. I'm really more of a math guy than a computer guy, but I became fairly proficient in C/C++, Java and a couple types of assembler without putting any particular effort into it.

The secret to learning how to program is just an intuitive understand of what is going on. Concepts like memory management and object oriented programming can seem daunting at first, but once you really wrap your head around the process, the entire thing becomes very simple. If you find it difficult, it's probably because you either approached the concepts assuming they were too difficult for you (which they aren't, trust me) or you started off trying to do something with required a base level of knowledge you didn't possess.

Coding is a skill, and like any skill, what it requires most is a time investment. It's really not as far beyond the abilities of the average person as most people seem to think it is. Just make sure you start with the extreme basics, and I would also recommend steering clear of anything with a title like 'Learn to Make Games Now!' I have flipped through those books, and they are almost universally useless: they tend to do the same song and dance number of walking you through elementary OpenGL/DirectX using poorly explained examples and then conclude with "Now you have made a game. Hurrah!"

[Impossible]

I am not a coder, I just pretend to be one so I can get paid.

[RohoMech]

I am not a coder, I just pretend to be one so I can get paid.

I can back this fact up, he's very good at pretending.

[Guert]

I am not a coder, I just pretend to be one so I can get paid.

I know people who are not artist but pretend to be one so they can get laid...