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I was just strolling through Wikipedia as usual when I notice that Pixel has no article, better yet, it was deleted. At first I though, well, maybe there aren't other indie devs articles either, but there's Nifflas, Derek Yu and a huge list of indie devs. I was going to start an article, but as it was already deleted in the past (probably because it was poorly written/had few relevant information) I didn't want to waste my time with the article and had it also deleted. I also have virtually zero experience with wiki articles, expect for some minor edits of typos and misinformation. I think that Pixel really deserves and qualifies to have a Wiki article, but the problem is, I'm not really sure what I should put in there besides the obvious "PIXEL CREATED CAVE STORY THE END". So in this thread we will try to collect relevant Pixel trivia and information for the article. (And possibly his photo, although I wouldn't expect that such a thing exists) Who's with me?  |
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 06:16:30 AM » |
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From the deletion log: one freeware game of marginal notability (Cave Story). Nothing to build an article around.  |
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Don Andy
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 06:17:59 AM » |
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one freeware game of marginal notability (Cave Story). Nothing to build an article around. DOES NOT COMPUTE |
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kyn
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 06:26:59 AM » |
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From the deletion log: one freeware game of marginal notability (Cave Story). Nothing to build an article around. marginal notability WHATThe guy that deleted that article clearly doesn't know Pixel's cult following. At least Guxt and Ikachan are worth mentioning in the article besides Cave Story, and we should definitely talk about his influences on indie devs and try to squeeze something in from his interviews. |
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 06:31:20 AM » |
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The guy that deleted that article clearly doesn't know Pixel's cult following.
Well, that's probably as far as it gets: a cult following. It's hard to verify justified notability from just that. |
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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2008, 06:40:41 AM » |
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The guy that deleted that article clearly doesn't know Pixel's cult following.
Well, that's probably as far as it gets: a cult following. It's hard to verify justified notability from just that. Without wanting to play either down, but has Nifflas much more of a cult following than Pixel does? And I'm pretty sure that more people have heard of Cave Story than of "Turtle Bay" which apparently was enough to warrant "Snowstep Development" an article (OK, they seemed to have helped on a few other games I never heard of, but seriously). I think the only thing Pixel lacks in comparison to other developers is PRESENCE, but that shouldn't really keep him from getting his own article. And didn't he do that underwater game, too (Ikachan, or something like that)? I'm sure he did a bit more than "just" Cave Story. |
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2008, 06:57:31 AM » |
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He did Guxt too. He has three games under his belt, one of which is arguably the most famous indie game of all time. I suppose that warrants a wiki article.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 06:58:11 AM » |
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I'm sure he did a bit more than "just" Cave Story.
All of his games are here, also has some music, Illustration and a short Manga story (I have an English translation for that if anyone's interested) and Music creating tool or something, not really sure what it is. As I already mentioned here, Ikachan and Guxt are also good games. |
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 08:22:06 AM » |
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I think pxTone combined with CS makes him worthy personally and I'm no Pixel sycophant. You'd need to demonstrate that pxTone was used in a number of other notable works or the foundation of a large community I think.
Just because you're a fan, doesn't mean it belongs in Wikipedia, so don't get carried away.
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muku
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 08:27:52 AM » |
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Perhaps this could be cited in support of Cave Story's notability ("...true classic..."). |
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 08:30:10 AM » |
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It'll be counted as an unreliable source. What they're looking for is sources from sites like CNN and established academic facility sources (like research labs, etc)
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2008, 08:30:54 AM » |
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Has been pimped by Radiohead, I think makes it notable enough, no?  Still, I guess it's no Soulja Boy, that takes some beating...
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2008, 08:43:16 AM » |
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It'll be counted as an unreliable source. What they're looking for is sources from sites like CNN and established academic facility sources (like research labs, etc)
I'm not sure what the guidelines exactly are, but I see links to privately owned websites all the time on Wikipedia. |
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2008, 08:46:03 AM » |
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one freeware game of marginal notability (Cave Story). Nothing to build an article around. But cave story itself has a wiki page, though  |
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2008, 09:03:12 AM » |
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one freeware game of marginal notability (Cave Story). Nothing to build an article around. But cave story itself has a wiki page, though If the higher-up Wiki-pricks deny us a Pixel page, we could probably make a sub-section in the Cave Story one, ala "About the Author" and list some of his other accomplishments there. I bet most people (like me till I hit this community) know the game "Cave Story" but have no idea there's a guy called "Pixel" behind it and that he did other stuff, so someone wiki-ing for Cave Story is more likely than someone directly wiki-ing for Daysuke "Pixel" Amaya. |
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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2008, 01:22:31 PM » |
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Well, that's probably as far as it gets: a cult following. It's hard to verify justified notability from just that.
Uh, I'm pretty sure Donnie Darko has a Wikipedia page. Aside: Donnie Darko is awesome. |
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« Reply #16 on: September 17, 2008, 01:31:11 PM » |
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Donnie Darko is mainstream.
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« Reply #17 on: September 17, 2008, 01:44:26 PM » |
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And they call it a work of art. Radiohead is good people. |
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« Reply #18 on: September 17, 2008, 01:53:14 PM » |
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Cave Story isn't notable?
Wow. I never thought I'd see the day when someone said that. It'd be like saying Eternal Daughter or Knytt Stories aren't notable.
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« Reply #19 on: September 17, 2008, 01:54:30 PM » |
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Cave story is, Pixel is not.
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