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[DiscordGames]

You guys should see James's glow worms enemies! They're jaw dropping 

Shhhh! Not yet!

[DiscordGames]

You guys should see James's glow worms enemies! They're jaw dropping  

Shhhh! Not yet!

I believe these are what he's talking about.. oh wait, what's that?! Cave troll!!1!

[ANtY]

too fast!

also relevant:



I'd go for more thoughtful idle animations than this, they're not enough compared to the rest of this wonderful game

[AlexHW]

I agree with ANtY. While it may be quicker to shift pieces around, it doesn't lend well to the overall sense of form. Considering the low amount of tones these characters are using, I don't understand why you wouldn't redraw each frame.

[caiys]

Yeah you have to sync that kind of movement with breathing with pauses at the height and a longer pause at the bottom. Otherwise looking fab. 

[Bandreus]

I'm assuming most of the art being shown is still to be considered WIP (although being continually polished), otherwise I agree the hectic moving pixels in the idle animation are a pain in the eyes.

Regarding the latest pic, OMG so awesome. Good work guys! 

[Desiderata]

This game looks brilliant and i've been lurking around here for a long time now. Could you explain what platform you are developing on and what you use to create your gorgeous pixel art graphics?

[poe]

This game looks brilliant and i've been lurking around here for a long time now. Could you explain what platform you are developing on and what you use to create your gorgeous pixel art graphics?

It's being developed with C# / XNA, and it's going to be on Windows, MAC, and linux.

[Cheetah]

The sprite work continues to astound. The character design for this cave troll is exceptional as well.

[unseven]

I've got to say my word on this one. About pace, well, first of all they are not breathing, they're on fight stances. On Street Fighter, Ryu and most fighters don't breathe at the same pace of their stances. Then, idle animations don't last long in gameplay: player and enemies do a lot of things (walk, run, attack, jump, feel pain, die), so even if it's bothering you, it will be brief. Which also means they need to be flashy in order to be relevant, otherwise there wouldn't be need of them. I made some previous games in which some characters' idle animation were so subtle players didn't even notice. Lastly, see, it's kind of cartoonish. Characters have got rather big heads, no nose, no mouth, short arms and legs. It's also an action game. I don't see why they should be realistic, slow and potentially "boring"


But thanks anyway guys, some points were really helpful, like the knee bending (although the troll has bent k ees, the player could have a rework) and frame redraw when we got the priorities done, we should go back into those, our deadline is very tight!

[AlexHW]

I made some previous games in which some characters' idle animation were so subtle players didn't even notice.

If players don't notice, then why animate characters at all? A player that doesn't notice a subtle detail one way probably won't notice less subtle details in the same way. These graphics are great, created by a refined eye- so it's a bit conflicting in places where it lacks the same refinement. Note, This is just food for thought and not necessarily meant as critique.

[nss_aries]

Keeping an eye on this! There's room for improvement but it's still early development and your doing good, in my opinion

[ANtY]

Whatever with other arguments but no matter how I look at it despite all other flaws these animations could have I still think it's all too fast, and I mean everything: gui animation, ceiling worm animation, troll and the guy, it reminds me of games where the fps wasn't locked and the game speed wasn't connected with delta_t. Actually the guy's idle animation is the closest to normal speed.

[Hipshot]

Whatever with other arguments but no matter how I look at it despite all other flaws these animations could have I still think it's all too fast, and I mean everything: gui animation, ceiling worm animation, troll and the guy, it reminds me of games where the fps wasn't locked and the game speed wasn't connected with delta_t. Actually the guy's idle animation is the closest to normal speed.

I agree with you, I think the entire image, with all animations, feels like it's in fast forward. Or, as you say, in a older game, where the FPS controlled the speed of animations.

[Impmaster]

Agreed. Maybe in combat, when everything is flying around and the game is fast-paced, this would look good. But when stationary, everything is far too fast. Of course, the player will hardly ever stay still.