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« on: March 09, 2013, 10:00:53 AM »

Abstract question - would you work with guy who don't want to talk via Skype calls (he can chat with you), doesn't tell anything about him, but have GREAT SKILLS?

Will you do an exception for the silent man? Or for a talented but very shy autistic?

PS: Maybe I'm wrong with board, in this case, advise the right.

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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2013, 10:21:56 AM »

Sure, just don't pay him everything up-front! In fact, payment on delivery only seems like a compromise he'll have to make if he wants to work like that.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2013, 10:45:29 AM »

Depends on what the skills are in. If he's an amazing programmer, then probably. Will he still chat over email? But I don't think it would work beyond one or two projects.
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2013, 10:55:40 AM »

Sure, just don't pay him everything up-front! In fact, payment on delivery only seems like a compromise he'll have to make if he wants to work like that.

Agreed =)

Depends on what the skills are in. If he's an amazing programmer, then probably. Will he still chat over email? But I don't think it would work beyond one or two projects.

Oh and if he's an amazing artist? You can chat as you prefer - skype, miranda, e-mail, PM on tigsource, but without a voice!
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2013, 11:47:24 AM »

well, I guess I value super amazing programmers more than artists.

Well, he's just nervous about his voice/being socially awkward (or poor english maybe?) ...I guess instant messaging is pretty close to voice chat.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2013, 02:11:06 PM »

I definitely wouldn't because of the way I work but if your tasks are well defined and you are organized, sure and like the others said, with post payment and a serious contract (ownership mainly).
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2013, 03:10:58 AM »

I think it's reasonable, English is not my native language and I also prefer the text chat over voice calls. There are also benefits of chat/e-mail i.e. everything you say is already recorded without having to take notes after each conversation.
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2013, 04:58:47 AM »

and you have time to think through everything you say
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2013, 05:06:51 AM »

I have a friend that I worked with for a while once. We were good friends, met at school. He didn't like the phone. We used to hang out all the time. We were comfortable together but he didn't like the phone.

That was tough. Communicating emotions is hard through text. Now I have the skill but then I didn't. I really would have preferred the phone. Ugh. But the chips fall where they do. We also were making product decisions collaboratively, so that was harder - very different from one person being in charge.

It is a bad idea not to chat (on skype etc), but, some people are nervous otherwise - I know I can be. So work your way up to it. Anything can be done in text, but voice helps a _ton_, even if you only do it sometimes and text the rest. You can't tell anything about his skill from his request alone. You have to see his work. Also, play to your own strengths. Text is a skill. You can learn it.

The skill is also a good one to have in general.
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« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2013, 05:45:59 AM »

I have trouble speaking, skype calls make me nervous, and if I'm in the middle of working, having someone on the line is like having a boss behind my back.  i pick my nose, scratch my butt.  we chat though.
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« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2013, 06:36:46 AM »

Not wanting to Skype and such wasn't the main issue for me. This part was:

Abstract question - would you work with guy who don't want to talk via Skype calls (he can chat with you), doesn't tell anything about him, but have GREAT SKILLS?

I assumed that meant he wants to remain anonymous? That's why I suggested only paying after delivery. But if you know who the guy is, then only wanting to chat isn't that big a deal and shouldn't really influence payment too much.
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2013, 06:45:40 AM »

Oh yeah, I misread that part. Pay after delivery. That should be obvious.
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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2013, 08:16:27 AM »

i wouldn't even mind working with a person who insists on communication only through morse code, but they would have to be *significantly* better than the alternatives

i mean, let's say you have two artists. both are equally good. one insists on communicating only through morse code, the other doesn't. i'd go with the one who doesn't. but if the one who wants to use morse code is a 10x better artist i'd go with that person and bear through learning morse code
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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2013, 08:34:05 AM »

I've found that you learn a lot communicating through text. I've used a lot of tracking software for projects. I've worked on one major one in which I had to use it as the main form of communication. Learning to express your ideas in writing is healthy.

Think of the pitch thread on these forums. People try to condense their ideas into a sentence. That activity forces you to understand what is really important about your game, what is _really_ important. Communicating with others through email does the same thing, but you know with a partner.
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« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2013, 09:37:10 AM »

I personally prefer to communicate over emails, that is what I suggest my artists and composers. My experience has been that when I chat many things will not be paid enough care since people have a tendency to lower their attention when quantities of talk are going on.

When you write an email you have more time to think out properly what you want to say. And the receiver will pay more attention reading it. And even then it goes on my nerves when at times my partners do ignore some specs I have explicitly explained.

As of now email is a more efficient way to communicate for me.
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